Rough hada

[Gasam]

Heyas,

 

Been trying to google this a bit with no luck, but what exactly is the definition of rough hada?

 

Is it that it has been polished down so much that the core steel is beginning to show through?

 

Not having access to any swordclubs etc I sometimes have to ask these (im sure to many) obvious questions here :-)

 

Can it be readily captured in pictures, and does anyone have any to post here?

 

Thanks!

[kusunokimasahige]

Jihada is the grain of the sword.

 

http://nihontomessageboard.com/nmb/view ... 2f520157b7

 

http://meiboku.info/guide/form/hada/index.htm

 

Hope that helps

 

KM

[Jean]

Everybody has his own conception of such terminology. For me, Rough=coarse, unrefined. Otherwise, if showing Jingane, I will call this tired rather than coarse, but English is not my native idioma.

[Gasam]

Ecxellent,

 

So, not so finely worked, coarsely grained/coarse hada then

 

Ty for replies as always

[pcfarrar]

  Gasam said:

Been trying to google this a bit with no luck, but what exactly is the definition of rough hada?

 

Is it that it has been polished down so much that the core steel is beginning to show through?

 

eBay is the best place to go looking for rough hada, see this sword below, it has a few rough areas and it also has shingane (core steel) visible in places:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351172008421

[Gasam]

Hi again!

 

Thanks for the link to the sword with rough hada and core steel showing through.

 

Very informative indeed

[Brian]

Personally, I wouldn't call rough hada the same as tired, although one might lead to the other.

I consider it rough if it is very open and "hard looking" lacking finesse and good execution. Lots of open grain basically. That's just my own interpretation though.

 

Brian

[Jussi Ekholm]

I think it's sometimes hard to use adjectives when describing things as like Jean said people have their own thoughts about such. I have lots and lots of hada terminology in my books and I don't understand even the half of them yet.

 

However I think that rough hada might be translated to jihada tatsu or hadamono. Here is one amazing article by Yoshikawa Kentaro that explains this in great detail (among lots of other things): http://www.nihontocraft.com/Ura_Nihon_no_Toko.html

 

I have previosly falsely thought that hadatachi also implies "rough" hada but now I understand it actually means the visibility and "standing out" pattern. So if hadatatsu means "rough" hada then hadatachi means "standing out" hada. Of course both can to my understanding apply at the same time also.

[kusunokimasahige]

What I have done is that I enlarged the drawings in Kokan Nagayama's books.

 

It does help to get an understanding of the things described, but seeing real swords is of course much better.

 

KM