bobtail44 Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 I have this blade and it has artistic writing that I am guessing is of of various ages on the outside of the shirasaya. Just wondering what it says. Im still learning to read kanji and finding it hard to find the time to translate especially when it is all hand written. If someone feels like cracking the code feel free and thanks Cheers, Trent NOTE I added images of the blade on second page! :D Quote
bobtail44 Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Posted August 20, 2014 The lighter kanji starts at the top and im guessing was written first and it gets darker as it goes down towards the tip of the blade. Trent S Quote
mywei Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 I'll start with the easy bit at the start Echizen ju R) Izumi no kami fujiwara Kunihiro L) Sagami no kami fujiwara Kunitsuna joint work (合作也) Quote
k morita Posted August 20, 2014 Report Posted August 20, 2014 Hi, Matt, You have good eye. Right and left line is reverse. bobtail44, There is only one Kanji character which is hard to read on the Sayagaki. Do you know,What year the sword was made in Keian period ? Quote
bobtail44 Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Posted August 20, 2014 I cant read kanji I just match them. Ive been collecting for a few years but ive only had a couple of hours free time to learn to Japanese. I wanted to confirm what people thought the date was. Also why is there so much text on the shirasaya, is it just a repeat of the same thing? Trent S Quote
k morita Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 Hi, Can you take a pic of date of the sword tang ? Quote
bobtail44 Posted August 21, 2014 Author Report Posted August 21, 2014 Sure can, when I get home in 8 hours ill be taking some pics Trent S Quote
bobtail44 Posted August 21, 2014 Author Report Posted August 21, 2014 Got home late, no photos today Trent S Quote
k morita Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 no problem. This is a appraiser's signature. He is Satō(family neme) Kanzan. Quote
bobtail44 Posted August 21, 2014 Author Report Posted August 21, 2014 oh I see. I tried matching the nakago to the shirasaya but it didn't all match. Now I know what the other bit is. Thank you. I was looking for more information on this smith but the information that I found seemed to say that he wasn't alive as late as the blade was made. I might have been confusing smith generations though. That guy might have been an author: http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/560764 but who knows http://www.jp-sword.com/files/books.htm down a few books Cheers, Trent Spencer Quote
k morita Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 Is there any golden inlay on the Tang? Quote
bobtail44 Posted August 21, 2014 Author Report Posted August 21, 2014 Yeah it says that it cut someone in half through the chest into the ground. Trent S Quote
k morita Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 You already know English translation of the sayagaki? Quote
bobtail44 Posted August 21, 2014 Author Report Posted August 21, 2014 You already know English translation of the sayagaki? No, That is from when I bought it and it was translated from the nakago According to Hawley they are from the Shimosaka group,I wonder if they were brothers. Trent S Quote
k morita Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 I see. Because the inlayed cutting test result is also written in the sayagaki. Yes,Shimosaka group in Echizen province. Quote
bobtail44 Posted August 22, 2014 Author Report Posted August 22, 2014 I see.Because the inlayed cutting test result is also written in the sayagaki. Yes,Shimosaka group in Echizen province. Do you happen to have any information on them, im interested in the history. thanks for your help. Trent S Quote
bobtail44 Posted August 22, 2014 Author Report Posted August 22, 2014 Here are the images :D :D Trent S Quote
bobtail44 Posted August 22, 2014 Author Report Posted August 22, 2014 some more cos I can ;D Trent S Quote
cabowen Posted August 22, 2014 Report Posted August 22, 2014 Kunitsuna was the lead smith who made the blade, Kunihiro the secondary. Quote
k morita Posted August 22, 2014 Report Posted August 22, 2014 Thank you for the pics. Does blade length match Sayagaki? Quote
bobtail44 Posted August 22, 2014 Author Report Posted August 22, 2014 Yes the blade length matches Thanks for taking the time to post that great diagram All of the information seems correct. Id love to know who the person was who wrote on it and what relationship the two smiths were to each other. Cheers, Trent S Quote
mywei Posted August 22, 2014 Report Posted August 22, 2014 Thanks Morita-san for the full translation. Quote
cabowen Posted August 22, 2014 Report Posted August 22, 2014 Sato Kanzan Sensei wrote the sayagaki. Do a little googling and you will find out who he was.... Quote
bobtail44 Posted August 23, 2014 Author Report Posted August 23, 2014 I just figured it out because I added sensei so a lot more came up on him because then I could search through Dr and kantei. Is there a way that I can preserve the fading writing on the shirasaya, like a light coating of clear varnish? I don't want it to wear off anymore, its a part of its history. Trent S Quote
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