Mumei katana attributed to Kanemori result from shinsha

[shibeni]

Hello,

I just recived iformation from NBTHK May shinsha, that my Mumei o-kissaki katana blade is attributed to Kanemori and pass Hozon, but not to specific school or era were mentioned. Can this be product of Mino school, Muromachi era? I did't find much info on this swordsmith as ther were lot of them also woking in Bizen..

 

Blade is 72,5 cm,

Sori=1,7 cm

Width at Hamachi=3,2 at Yokote is 2,9 cm

Kasane is 0,71 cm

Itame hada with nagare, jinie and some utsuri. Boshi is Hakikake. Hamon niedeki suguha...Polish is old.

 

Thank you for any info on school or era,

Bojan S.

[Darcy]

Ahhhhh I have a legitimate signature of Kanemori that you can have for your blade haha.

 

It is a gakumei that was placed falsely into what I think is an Echizen shinto katana (a Soshu copy) that I have.

 

There are a few different Kanemori, one is Yamato and has the square Kane. There are several Kanemori in Mino.

 

兼森

兼守

兼盛 (mine, Akasaka)

兼衛

 

Kanemori starts from this:

 

Shizu Kaneuji

Naoe Shizu Kanetomo

Sanami Kanenori

Kanemori (兼守)

 

I don't know where the others come in, some follow but I think the Akasaka one is maybe not related to the others. This is all mid to late Muromachi.

 

It is probably one level better attribution than getting Sue Seki.

[shibeni]

Hello Darcy,

yes, you can send me Kanemori mei :lol:

Bojan S.

[shibeni]

Hello,

Could this be Mino work..?

Thank you,

BojanS.

[Stephen]

Looks Shinshinto to me.

[cabowen]

Since there are numerous Kanemori signatures, it would eliminate a lot of guesswork and wasted time if you could simply post a photo of the kantei-sho so we can see the kanji used.

[shibeni]

Hello,

I was informed only with atribution to Kanemori and that pass Hozon. Sword and papers are in shipping proces, so I don't have them at this moment. I will post them when arrives back with sword..

Bojan S.

[Bazza]

Well, to "hang it out there" I can't but help agreeing with Stephen. When I see a big, ubu, mumei katana with o-kissaki I think Shinshinto...

 

BaZZa.

[shibeni]

Nakago has old patina and corroded surface, there are traces of yasurime...

BojanS.

[Darcy]

Would have to find a Shinshinto Kanemori, the problem being that the name is obscure in all periods so it's hard to determine what they are meaning. Just ask the person who submitted it for a snapshot of the picture.

 

The utsuri is not out of keeping for mino, it would be shirake utsuri and the hamon looks basic and would be acceptable. Form looks more like shinshinto but the nakago will indeed tell you more about the age. Also the kasane, checking to see what's happened to it going from nakago into the body of the sword. I wouldn't expect a shinshinto sword to narrow.

 

With what you've given there's not a lot more anyone can say. You'll have to get the paper or the sword or both.

[Jim P]

Hi Bojan, The photos look like they come from Aoi Art, if they did what was their thoughts on age or if not them the seller's thoughts ?

[shibeni]

Hi,

yes, photos and seller is from Aoi, it had no papers so it was extra submited to Hozon papers and pass Kanemori. Era was stated by Aoi as late muromachi and 400 years old via email...so I ask for second opinion on Board..

BojanS

[shibeni]

Hi, this photo of the hamon is also from Aoi.

Bojan S

[Jim P]

Hi Bojan,I thought I had seen it before I think you have the right info they have seen the sword in hand we have not and looking just at the photos with no info. I would have gone with Bazza with Shinshinto but thanks to Darcy we all learned something today :D

[shibeni]

Hello,

I take another sword instead of this... It is Kanenori not Kanemori and it is back on Aoi salle.. I was informed by Aoi that it pass as Kanemori, so very non proffesional info from the seller, as I payed for shinsha...I got replays from few different staff...I hope that new order will work better than this...

Thank you for help anyway.

BojanS

[Darcy]

Well I will score one for me anyway since I said it was late Muromachi Mino.

 

You can send cake to my PO box.

 

They described it as:

 

Era : Late Muromachi period.

Shape : The blade is wide and thick with nice sori and long ookissaki style nice looking shape.

Jitetsu : Itame had nagger with Jinie attach and utsuri appear.

Hamon : Niedeki suguha. Boshi is midarekomi hakikake Kaen style.

 

Special feature : Kanenori was working at Mino province and moved to Echizen province.