Fujiwara Kunisada Wakizashi real?

[Heringsdorf]

Hello,

I'm new to the forum, and need some advice and guidance on a wakizashi I'm interested in.

The nakago is signed "Fujiwara Kunisada saku" I think.

It's dated "Keicho 2 .....? Year 8month a lucky day"

What is the opinion of the experts in this forum on the mei and the overall blade?

Thank you very much.

[hxv]

I believe it's gimei for several reasons:

 

1. In 1592, when the sword was purportedly made, Oya Kunisada was at best 2-3 years old.

2. His work has very nice, even ji nie and his hamon is nie deki. I don't see nie on this sword.

3. The mei is not his recorded mei, and see #1.

 

Regards,

Hoanh

[Heringsdorf]

Thank you for the reply.

I thought the date was 1597. Keicho 2

But even then, Kunisada would have been only 7-8 years old.

 

Max B.

[hxv]

My apologies. Again, in 1597, he was under 10 years of age.

 

Regards,

Hoanh

[Gunome]

Hello,

 

What Kunisada are you talking about ?

The only I have with these kanji "藤原國定" is kawachi daijō fujiwara kunisada that worked around kanbun, so about 60 years after keicho ?!

 

Thanks

[hxv]

The only Kunisada in the neighborhood of this time frame I can think of is Izumi no Kami Kunisada, father/teacher of Inoue Shinkai. Even then, it's about 10-15 years before his time.

 

Hoanh

[Heringsdorf]

So it's probably a total fake?

[Heringsdorf]

I also wonder on the date side what the kanji after no (2) and before nen means?

 

 

Max

[KarlPeterSmith]

1596 is your start date (And I'm only seeing the last character of the 2 year date given in the 2nd pic of the above post #1) which looks like an 'E' above an 'lX') just so you know my starting point. ('Mr hxv' in post#2 states it is 1592 but... that's impossible going on the characters on your blade which would be looking like an '1/X' above a 'TK', and they don't look close to anything like that.)

 

 

PLUS... you need to add more years... minimum of +2 (Ni) due to the following '=' symbol. Taking it to 1597... hey...the date Tadayoshi and Munenaga were at Umetada Myoju's forge with Kunisada(d.1660)...  maybe 

 

1597 

 

And the 'year' symbol resembles that of samurai sword-maker Horikawa KUNIHIRO (d.1615)... who taught KUNISADA before his nephew KUNITOMO (d.1660) took over the tutoring of Kunisada.

 

Will this NEWS cheer you up?

 

I actually haven't learnt (Stems and Signs) [characters beneath the year symbol] ...but the Horse (Midzunoye) character is there.. 9th Month? Or a miswritten Horse character...