Type99 Posted July 7, 2014 Report Posted July 7, 2014 Any information on this helmet is appreciated. Their is a head liner inside. Quote
Baka Gaijin Posted July 7, 2014 Report Posted July 7, 2014 Good morning Dow More pics please of the inside of the Hachi (Helmet Bowl) if possible, or the liner area. Cheers Quote
IanB Posted July 7, 2014 Report Posted July 7, 2014 Dow, This helmet looks to be post Edo. Shots of the interior of the shikoro will confirm it. Ian Bottomley Quote
Dr Fox Posted July 7, 2014 Report Posted July 7, 2014 Hi Dow If you scroll down to my post "Kabuto photos" you will see your enquiry is similar to mine. There you will also see the photos I was asked for, and the advice given. Hope it helps. Cheers. Quote
kusunokimasahige Posted July 8, 2014 Report Posted July 8, 2014 This looks like a modern day post Meiji helmet, probably made in the 70's or 80's. Still quite nice since it is of a model used by the early samurai of the Kamakura period. KM Quote
Type99 Posted July 9, 2014 Author Report Posted July 9, 2014 Enclosed is a picture of inside the helmet. Quote
Type99 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Posted July 18, 2014 I'm assuming no news is good news regarding the headliner picture. I think it appears to new. Quote
kusunokimasahige Posted July 25, 2014 Report Posted July 25, 2014 Never assume anything on this board. No news could as well mean bad news. KM Quote
IanB Posted July 25, 2014 Report Posted July 25, 2014 Dow, Please accept my apologies for not replying sooner, I had put your query on the back-burner and was subsequently distracted by decorating. I'm afraid to say I think your helmet is not all that old, although it is in an old style. A considerable number of these helmets, as well as complete armours, were made for the tourist trade in the Meiji period by redundant armourers who were desperate to make an income. The best can be very, very deceptive since they often incorporate genuine old elements. There is one in a large collection here in the UK that only really gives itself away because the sleeves, shinguards and haidate are all different despite being sewn onto the same sumptuous brocade. Invariably they took a few liberties, Westerners being far less knowledgeable than the samurai. Most obvious on most of these armours is the size and flatness of the lacquer on the scales - especially on the underside that often seems to have been given the minimum of attention. They also tended to use cast kanamono (ornaments) that often show a missed piece of flashing or repeat too often on the armour. Note the three triangular ones on your helmet. This trade in spurious armours and helmets continued into the Taisho period and quite a few seem to have been made for the coronation of Emperor Showa. Don't be down-hearted. I have a Meiji helmet I have associated with a real Muromachi do-maru. It is in the right style and quite a good copy and I ain't going to get a real one. Ian Bottomley Quote
Type99 Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Posted July 28, 2014 Ian, Many thanks for your reply I suspected it was a copy. Quote
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