dnmmilo Posted July 6, 2014 Report Posted July 6, 2014 G'day, I've just got hold of an IJA Parade Sabre in good condition with a silver family mon on the backstrap. The sword appears to be of higher quality than some others I've owned. Does anyone have any idea which family the 'mon' belongs to? Cheers David Quote
Baka Gaijin Posted July 6, 2014 Report Posted July 6, 2014 Hi David The Kamon is known as Maruni Chigai Taka no Ha and I believe was used by various families including the Asano. Cheers Quote
george trotter Posted July 6, 2014 Report Posted July 6, 2014 That's right...the most famous user of this mon were the Asano clan of Ako. His death led to the revenge raid of the 47 Ronin in 1703. As to who used it on your sword, we can't say as after 1913 (or 1909?) anyone could use any mon they liked (except the Imperial line mon). Regards, Quote
Baka Gaijin Posted July 6, 2014 Report Posted July 6, 2014 Hi George, I also found a reference to the Ôtani using it. I found a source in Japan that says Kamon were deregulated in 1868: http://www.tokyotrad.com/ebay/kamon_explain.htm Here's an interesting snippett from Louis Vuitton archive: After the death of his father Louis, Georges Vuitton began a campaign to build the company into a worldwide corporation, exhibiting the company's products at the Chicago World's Fair in 1893. In 1896, the company launched the signature Monogram Canvas and made the worldwide patents on it. Its graphic symbols, including quatrefoils and flowers (as well as the LV monogram), were based on the trend of using Japanese and Oriental designs in the late Victorian era. Cheers Quote
george trotter Posted July 7, 2014 Report Posted July 7, 2014 I found a source in Japan that says Kamon were deregulated in 1868: Hi Malcolm, 1868 may be correct, I was only quoting a Japanese book of about 1913 and I may have got the date of change over wrong. Regards, Quote
IanB Posted July 7, 2014 Report Posted July 7, 2014 Malcolm. Not only did Louis Vuitton use stylised kamon as a design on his leather, he actually was inspired to make his luggage after seeing Japanese cartridge boxes at a Paris Exposition. Ian Bottomley Quote
Baka Gaijin Posted July 8, 2014 Report Posted July 8, 2014 Thanks Ian, I can always rely upon you to add interesting Flesh to the Bone In "The Diary of an Art Dealer" Rene Gimpel (who dealt with Van Gogh's estate, Monet, Renoir and a very young Picasso) mentions disapprovingly in one of his diaries that a distant cousin is setting up in Paris selling luggage........... Cheers Quote
lonely panet Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 this item is now in ebay, abit of a shame it was offered to members first, considering they helped with all the questions. Quote
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