Could anyone help me out here

[Chriso]

I just purchased a sukashie Tsuba which I think may be a reasonable purchase.

I would appreciate any comment + or _ and any details if possible.

 

Sorry about the pics

 

Chris O

[Geraint]

Dear Chris.

 

There must have been something about it that made you part with some cash, what was it> Look at the seppa dai and the hitsu for kogai and kozuka, what do you see?

 

All the best

[Bugyotsuji]

Since you do not give the price, it is hard to judge whether it was reasonable or not.

 

Now if you gave us a series of prices to compare it against, say a) 10,000 USD, b) 1,000 USD, c) 100 USD, d) 10 USD etc., then that would give us a series of yardsticks!

[Chriso]

Ok OK point noted, price was $64 US, at that price i can always use it as a door stop, however, I did take a fancy to the curves.

 

Chris o

[kusunokimasahige]

It looks like a crudely cast copy to me.

 

KM

[Antti]

Chris, if you like this theme, and curves in general, here are two nice examples currently for sale:

 

First, a superb, but extremely expensive Kamiyoshi:

http://www.ginzaseikodo.com/rakujuE.html

 

And something a lot less expensive:

http://www.japaneseswordbooksandtsuba.c ... shigaki-i#

 

Your tsuba however, looks like a cast copy.

[Chriso]

Both lovely pieces, thank you Antti.

I'll post a couple of decent pics when the piece arrives, I'm hoping it may be a bit better than the ones posted.

 

Regards and best

 

Chris o

[Brian]

Door stop it is.

Cast I think...low quality.

Sorry..but you need to buy books and look at good tsuba before making any further purchases in this line. This one is everything you don't want in a tsuba. At least you are not out too much money. You have the passion..the hardest part is learning to slow down.

 

Brian

[Thierry BERNARD]

Here is a tsuba I've owned some time ago!

[Soshin]

Door stop it is.

Cast I think...low quality.

Sorry..but you need to buy books and look at good tsuba before making any further purchases in this line. This one is everything you don't want in a tsuba. At least you are not out too much money. You have the passion..the hardest part is learning to slow down.

 

Brian

 

Hi Everyone,

 

Completely agree with Brian and others. Looks like a crude case iron reproduction that isn't hard to spot. The low amount of cash could have been spent on books or savings for a real tsuba.

[Ford Hallam]

I'd have to disagree with those who suggest this is a doorstop. It's clearly far to light for that :D but it might make a decent coffee mug stand.

[Chriso]

Ah, coffee stand it is, thanks Ford.

I can always guarantee that the forum will set me straight. Many thanks to all

 

Chris

[kusunokimasahige]

Well Chris, you did not lose too much money on this one.

 

A few packets of sigarettes and a few beers on a night out would set you back the same amount

 

KM

[Alan Morton]

Chris,

When are you coming to Sydney again

so I can show you some real tsuba?

We would love to see you again.

Alan.

[Chriso]

G'day Alan, it's been a while mate. Would love to catch up if you could drop me your details. Lib and I are considering Japan next year.

 

Best

 

Chris O

 

Sorry bout the chatter guys

[Alan Morton]

Pm sent

 

Al

[Alan Morton]

AAAHH yeah John F

I did get your pm

is the tsuba your talking about that ratty sukashi one

signed Ichiryu something or other Hitsotsuyanagi school

thing

I'll dig around and see if there is anything poor or cheap enough

to suite you taste.

Best regards Alan.

[kuromido]

Hello all,

Is it just me or are we missing a teachable moment for our group as a whole?

There are so many obvious problems with this tsuba that I think a few words are worthwhile.

My 2 cents on it come from a metalsmiths point of view. This a critique ONLY and in no way a shot at chriso.

To a degree, an understanding of metelworking can be a valuable addition to the appreciation of these fine art objects.

So here I go,

First , when you look at this piece there is a lack of concern for symmetry, balance, flow, something only seen done with intent in Japanese metalwork. ( that's the critique part)

second , the nakagoana is misshapen , rounded at the edges where it meets the plates surface and shows no difference in surface finish in the seppa dai area. All are warning signs of a modern, cast replica piece.

Third is the hitsu-ana. They are of different size and oddly shaped ( a great reason to study books pictures and respected websites.) They are are also sharp on the interior (Very detrimental to the fittings designed to pass threw them)

Lastly the sukashi is riddled with casting fins or flashing and has a VERY cast surface finish. Again, something that points to a modern cast piece.

I know that this is all really obvious to many of us but we all started somewhere.

 

Thought I would try to pull the beginners into the boat.

Ill shut up now,

 

Cheers, PeterD

[Chriso]

Many thanks for that Peter, currently on a steep learning curve but I'll get there.

 

Cheers and best to all for the comments

 

Chriso