crafttwoman Posted June 7, 2014 Report Posted June 7, 2014 I have a katana w/scabbard (sorry if this is not the right word) and a dagger that I would like to sell. These items were part of my mother's estate and, though there were family stories about them, I never knew what was true and what was not. Unfortunately, my mother was probably the last one who had any idea where these items came from. I am simply looking to dispose of these items to settle the estate as I am neither a collector or fancier. I have taken them to a couple of pawn shops where I was told that they were old and might be of some value. I was referred to the knifeforums website where someone there told me the dagger might have come from the Phillipines. The katana seems obviously to have come from Japan, which would square with one family story that says these items were brought home by my grandfather after WWII. I was also told by someone on the website that the katana might be valuable if it had a signature or markings under the tang. Didn't know what a tang was but assumed that since the blade was removable the markings, if any, would be at the top of the blade. Well, my husband was able to remove the wooden peg that held the blade and, upon removing it, we did find what appears to be Japanese writing on both sides. I first made a rubbing of the writing, then took photos. I tried to attach the photos but the files were too big and this site would not accept them. I would appreciate any further information anyone can offer about these items and if anyone is interested in purchasing them would love to hear from you. So if you have an interest and want to see the photos please let me know your email address and I will gladly send the photos. Thank you! Sherryl Quote
cabowen Posted June 7, 2014 Report Posted June 7, 2014 Send me the photos and I will translate the signature for you. swords@ejapaneseswords.com Quote
Curran Posted June 7, 2014 Report Posted June 7, 2014 You finally made it to the right place to ask. Stephen or Chris Bowen should be able to help. Quote
crafttwoman Posted June 7, 2014 Author Report Posted June 7, 2014 Thank you, yes, I think I have found the right place to ask! Someone on knifeforums referred me to this message board. Sherryl Quote
Stephen Posted June 7, 2014 Report Posted June 7, 2014 Craft lady er woman lol heres the pix, well need more info for a value sent pm for it Choko 1489 smith Bishu Osafune Masamitsu hope to see some blade shots and its in good shape. Quote
Mark Posted June 7, 2014 Report Posted June 7, 2014 I think correct except my translation differs in the name and exact year Tadamitsu and I think 1488 Quote
Stephen Posted June 7, 2014 Report Posted June 7, 2014 what I get for doing a quick one at bed time Quote
John A Stuart Posted June 7, 2014 Report Posted June 7, 2014 What do you expect to sell your pieces for? John BTW, Quote
Brian Posted June 7, 2014 Report Posted June 7, 2014 Moved to translation section until it is for sale, and has a price. Btw, there is no "shotgun" on the NMB. Deal with the seller directly Brian Quote
Brian Posted June 7, 2014 Report Posted June 7, 2014 Calling shotgun is like calling "dibs" :? Brian Quote
Stephen Posted June 7, 2014 Report Posted June 7, 2014 Oh ok like calling the front seat window....dibs...got ya Quote
Stephen Posted June 7, 2014 Report Posted June 7, 2014 rainy day so nothing better to do, shes ruff and not so ready boys. Crafttwoman some major problems with your sword, well see what kind of offers you get now. Quote
crafttwoman Posted June 7, 2014 Author Report Posted June 7, 2014 Thank you once again for putting on the pics of the katana. It obviously had some hard use. One can only imagine what stories it could tell if it could speak! Still, not too bad for something that was apparently made over 500 years ago. I spoke to my only surviving aunt, my mom's sister, who told me that my uncle served in WWII. I am guessing that is how the katana & dagger came to be in my mother's possession. My uncle never could hold on to much money and was often unemployed. He was in the habit of bringing my mother things to "hold" for him and she would give him some money to live on. Now, understand that this was not easy for my mom, since she was raising 5 kids, and my dad, who had only a grade school education, often worked two jobs to feed, clothe and house us all. My uncle has been deceased now for quite some years. So this is probably how the katana & dagger came into my mother's possession. I am sure she had no idea of its value. She only knew she was doing her brother a favor. Sherryl Quote
Ken-Hawaii Posted June 7, 2014 Report Posted June 7, 2014 Members on this forum are happy to help, but please follow Brian's rules & put at least your first name on each & every post. Ken Quote
Ed Posted June 7, 2014 Report Posted June 7, 2014 OUCH!! The sword is awful rough condition. Trent may regret calling dibs I was interested in the dagger if it was Filipino, but it doesn't look like anything from Philippines or Indonesia that I have seen. Quote
Ed Posted June 7, 2014 Report Posted June 7, 2014 Stephen, Yes, I hit submit before adding it looks to be a Sykes Fairbairn dagger. Quote
bobtail44 Posted June 8, 2014 Report Posted June 8, 2014 OUCH!! The sword is awful rough condition. Trent may regret calling dibs I was interested in the dagger if it was Filipino, but it doesn't look like anything from Philippines or Indonesia that I have seen. It is such a shame, I have a feeling that it would have been a very beautiful sword before it left for the war. Definitely a lot of care went into the blade carving. Id keep that in the family if it were me. Thanks for the photos you emailed as well. Trent Spencer Quote
Brian Posted June 8, 2014 Report Posted June 8, 2014 Not a Fairbairn Sykes. Probably native made somewhere. Need more pics of the sword. The nicks are a big minus, but it has age and might still be restorable. Not economically viable I am sure, but since when do we collectors do what makes sense? :D Brian Quote
crafttwoman Posted June 8, 2014 Author Report Posted June 8, 2014 I have more pictures, but my files are too large to load here. If you would like to see the pics I have please let me know your email and I will get them to you. Could the dagger in fact be a tanto? Sherryl Quote
cabowen Posted June 8, 2014 Report Posted June 8, 2014 Dagger is not a tanto. It is not Japanese. Quote
Stephen Posted June 8, 2014 Report Posted June 8, 2014 try photoshop.com/tools you can try to reduce it your self, is the tsuba signed? lots of tsuba guys here Quote
Brian Posted June 8, 2014 Report Posted June 8, 2014 Some info on resizing here: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7 Get the dpi down to under 100, and max width to under 1500 pixels. And any of these will do it too: http://www.webresizer.com/ http://www.picresize.com/ http://www.picresize.com/ http://www.shrinkpictures.com/ http://www.resize.it/ Brian Quote
Curran Posted June 8, 2014 Report Posted June 8, 2014 First glance: nice looking Tadamitsu signature and date. Nice family of smiths. Blade looks like someone decided to go hacking brush and tree limbs with it. Might restore, but would lose a fair bit of metal. The sword is not dead, but going to require some serious care and risk taking to get her back. If Sherryl is in a state near any known reliable collectors, might consider directing her to them so that they can check the blade for hagire. Probably the tsuba and lone fuchi should be sold seperate. [sherryl, tsuba = sword guard fuchi = the little pretty black copper n gold piece that rests up against the tsuba Usually the fuchi is part of a set of 2 pieces. When it is alone like that, having lost its companion from the end of the hilt-- we call them 'orphan' or 'orphan fuchi'.] Quote
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