william m Posted May 22, 2014 Report Posted May 22, 2014 Hi all, I have had in my possession for quite a long time now a rather nice Kozuka (Compared to rest of my stuff) and I have never thought much into researching it and have just had it mounted into my nihonto. Recently a friend while looking at it identified a signature on the spine, which to my shame I had not seen before! My Japanese friends say that the writing is of an old style and is most likely "Gak Kou 学 光" but cannot be sure as it could also be "Ei Kou 栄 光" I was wondering if anybody here could help me identify this signature and possibly suggest a time period? Thank you! Quote
Geraint Posted May 22, 2014 Report Posted May 22, 2014 Hi William. (You will get asked to put your name on each post, easy to do in your profile.) I am having trouble reading the first kanji but the second is mitsu I think. Have a look at the kanji pages from the link at the top of the homepage and you might have a chance to find the top kanji in hand. All the best. Quote
william m Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Posted May 22, 2014 Ah apologies, I have now added my name into my signature. Thanks for the tip, I have gone through the names and I think this is the closest I can find. What do you think? 守 Mori is pretty close and it could also be 家 but I am less sure of that one. Quote
Geraint Posted May 22, 2014 Report Posted May 22, 2014 Hi Wiliam, I can't get any closer than you on this one. Someone else will chime in sooner or later. All the best. Quote
John A Stuart Posted May 22, 2014 Report Posted May 22, 2014 I am not able to satisfy myself with the first kanji, but, the way it is carved makes me doubt if it is legitimate anyway. I was leaning towards 茅. It is just really horribly carved. John Quote
william m Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Posted May 22, 2014 The problem is that the signature is really very small. It must be around 1.5mm in width. Quote
John A Stuart Posted May 22, 2014 Report Posted May 22, 2014 It may be small and kibatamei, but, this is just unskilled. John Quote
Brian Posted May 22, 2014 Report Posted May 22, 2014 I dunno John. If really just 1.5mm wide, and on the edge of the kozuka..that is really small. Brian Quote
william m Posted May 22, 2014 Author Report Posted May 22, 2014 Haha, unfortunately I left the kozuka at work when I was using the studio. I will measure it up tomorrow. Quote
william m Posted May 23, 2014 Author Report Posted May 23, 2014 OK here we go! Looks like I was a bit wrong with the width estimate but its still pretty small. I wonder if it was just worked in with a knife. Quote
Markus Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 The signature reads NORIMITSU or JÔKÔ (乗光). Haynes lists one artist for each reading. The JÔKÔ entry (H 02160.0) says that he was a tachi-kanagushi from Ôsaka, active around 1750, but I´m not sure of that´s the man... Quote
John A Stuart Posted May 23, 2014 Report Posted May 23, 2014 I am thinking it was added by someone to ID the kozuka and it seems like Yanagawa school work. The nanori 光 'mitsu' shows within the school frequently. If the first kanji had been 守 'mori', it would have made the name fit well the workmanship, but, Nori skews that. John Quote
runagmc Posted May 24, 2014 Report Posted May 24, 2014 I wonder if genuine mei are found right on top of the solder seam like that? Quote
John A Stuart Posted May 24, 2014 Report Posted May 24, 2014 Here is an example of kibatamei. The seam is adjacent. John Quote
william m Posted May 26, 2014 Author Report Posted May 26, 2014 OK so it looks like I have quite a few leads on what this could be, ranging from on if it is genuine or not, whether it was scratched on at a later date as an ID and even what exactly the name is due to the unambiguous characters. Thank all you all very much for your input! Whatever the kozuka really is, I am happy as I think it matches up quite nicely to the wakizashi I currently have it mounted in. Thanks all! Quote
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