1941willysmb Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 Hello- This sword is being offered to me as a ww2 bring back, It looks real to me, but real what exactly, I don't know. Any help ID'ing this is greatly appreciated! http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... 001291.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... 001288.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... 001281.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... 001342.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... 001306.jpg Quote
cabowen Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 What is visible looks very nice. Looks to be a Muromachi period blade with later koshirae. Quote
ROKUJURO Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 .....It looks real to me, but real what exactly, I don't know. Any help ID'ing this is greatly appreciated! ..... Please sign your post with at least a first name. How could we help without photos of the blade? Quote
Stephen Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 Something mitsu Morimitsu? nice find, more shots of the blade please. Quote
hxv Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 The tsuba (sword guard) looks very nice. It might be old enough to be ko katchushi. Regards, Hoanh Quote
1941willysmb Posted April 23, 2014 Author Report Posted April 23, 2014 Blade pics: http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... /011-1.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... mb/013.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... /015-1.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... mb/017.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... /020-1.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... /021-1.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... mb/023.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... mb/041.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... mb/040.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... mb/039.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... mb/036.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... mb/032.jpg http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... mb/031.jpg Thank you all for your help! -Todd Quote
1941willysmb Posted April 23, 2014 Author Report Posted April 23, 2014 So am I safe paying $500 on this? Thanks! Todd Quote
hxv Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 Todd, You are more than safe. I would say the tsuba alone is already almost twice what you are paying for the entire package. Go for it... Hoanh Quote
Stephen Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 that's a steal, one more pix please, full shot so we can see the sori. anyone else think the nakago is ubu? Quote
1941willysmb Posted April 23, 2014 Author Report Posted April 23, 2014 Well then, I guess I have no choice! Regards- Todd Quote
hxv Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 Stephen, The nakago does look ubu to me as well. The blade has what looks like a nasty lamination opening, so no love lost there. But, for that price, given the nice tsuba, I wouldn't think twice. Personally, what I would do is pawn off the blade on ebay and keep the tsuba. But, that's just me. Regards, Hoanh Quote
1941willysmb Posted April 23, 2014 Author Report Posted April 23, 2014 Does this work for the sori? http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... mb/004.jpg -Todd Quote
1941willysmb Posted April 23, 2014 Author Report Posted April 23, 2014 Hoanh- Is this the pic of the lamination opening? http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/J ... mb/040.jpg Thanks! Todd Quote
Stephen Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 Me id go for a full restore, good togi can take care of them burgers. would like to see full shot, so what's the plan for the sword Todd? Quote
Stephen Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 could it be? Oei Bizen? http://www.sho-shin.com/oei.htm Quote
Stephen Posted April 23, 2014 Report Posted April 23, 2014 Yea Todd, i seen it its not death, like i said a good togi can work the steel. Turned and cropped mei, funny that the right stroke looks turned wrong??? Maybe a pro can fine tune this mei for us??? Quote
Marius Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 OK, one word - you are safe if you are positive that this sword has no hagire. Otherwise than that, I agree with the opinion that this is a steal. Hoanh, I respectfully disagree with your assessment of the tsuba. It is a pretty bland Edo "tosho" piece (look at its size and the number and placement of sukashi) and the rim is a later addition, perhaps a fix to a damaged tsuba. Very ordinary. The sword is nice, the delamination is not a deal killer. How long is the blade (cutting part and the whole)? I can't make ths ot in the pics, sorry. Could the first kanji be "Tame"? Quote
Brian Posted April 24, 2014 Report Posted April 24, 2014 A good deal. But needs someone to spend some serious $$'s on it and have it properly restored. Don't just buy it as an item of militaria..it needs some work and research. Congrats Brian Quote
1941willysmb Posted April 24, 2014 Author Report Posted April 24, 2014 Interesting. So this is definitely a Muromachi blade? Length of edge is about 69.5CM. Total length is 86CM. No hagire that I can see. I'm mostly into WW2 militaria but I ended up with an Emura for that. Having a real deal older blade, even if it's a parts sword is kinda cool! I really appreciate everyone's insight on this as it is well outside my realm of knowledge. -Todd Quote
Marius Posted April 25, 2014 Report Posted April 25, 2014 Todd, it is not a "parts" sword. It is a sword. Don't confuse the blade with the mountings, they are separate entities in the nihonto world. You have what seems a fine sword. If you have the funds, you should send it to Japan or to Bob Benson in Hawaii to have it polished. Beware of amateur polishers with sites claimign god knows what... Don't try to save on polish, the result will be only a tremendous loss of value of your sword... Quote
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