Gilles Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 Dear gentlemen, I bought a long time ago a Koa Isshin sword with the logo of the South Manchurian Railway Company. The date use the zodiacal dating system, it is 1938 if I remind me well. This sword was stored in a box with kanji(s) on the lid. Can you help me translating them? Please see the photos. For what I understand, it says that this sword was given to an Italian official........ 1 Quote
Gilles Posted April 8, 2014 Author Report Posted April 8, 2014 Dear John, Thank you very much. I think it is Yōsuke Matsuoka , (March 3, 1880 – June 26, 1946). He was a Japanese diplomat and Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Empire of Japan during the early stages of World War II. He was also vice-president and president of the South Manchuria Railway. Quote
Baka Gaijin Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 Good afternoon Gilles, If it helps, I get Paolo Bompardo from the literal katakana, but could that be Paolo Lombardo? Cheers Quote
kunitaro Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 Dear Gilles san, It is written, 贈 パオロ ホムパルド殿 Gift to Mr.Paulo Hompardo or Lombardo ? 満鉄製作 日本刀 Mantetsu seisaku(made) Nihonto 松岡洋右 Matsuoka Yosuke It is very interesting ! Quote
Gilles Posted April 8, 2014 Author Report Posted April 8, 2014 Dear Kunitaro san, Thank you so much for your help. I am going to post some pictures of the nakago on Military Sword of Japan folder. Quote
Drago Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 贈 パオロ ホムパルド殿Gift to Mr.Paulo Hompardo or Lombardo ? Isn't this ボムパルド? (bo-mu-pa-ru-do) But I seriously have no idea how to read that - Bompardo? Is that an Italian name? "Bompard" is a French name though. Quote
Baka Gaijin Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 Hi Tobias, I reckon it's Lombardo. Cheers Quote
Drago Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 But wouldn'T they use "ロ" for the "lo" in Lombardo? Quote
Justin Grant Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 Matsuoka and his famous League of Nations speech http://www.historicfilms.com/tapes/1307 Quote
Baka Gaijin Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 Hi Tobias, "But wouldn'T they use "ロ" for the "lo" in Lombardo?" I'm not sure, I was thinking from the viewpoint of sometimes what we hear and how we turn it into a phonetic can be a matter of if the phonetic has been passed down the line a number of times; particularly so if the person writing the Katakana on the Hakogaki does not have a precise knowledge of western naming. Conversely for example, in the very early 1960's before real instruction books were available, the Karate Technique Shuto uke was often written down as Sto kee, because when the Japanese Sensei visited and taught en masse, the inflective sound was 'Shtou Ke and thus became Sto kee, to us in South Wales at least. Just a thought. Cheers Quote
Jean Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 Malcom, For me Sto kee was soto uke and not shuto uke. Quote
Baka Gaijin Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 Good evening Jean Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose Cheers Quote
Jean Posted April 8, 2014 Report Posted April 8, 2014 Seventeen years of training in shotokan and wado ryu Quote
Kiipu Posted November 6, 2023 Report Posted November 6, 2023 On 4/8/2014 at 8:22 AM, Gilles said: For what I understand, it says that this sword was given to an Italian official. Paolo Bompard パオロ ボムパルド was part of the Italian PNF (Partito Nazionale Fascista) Mission that visited Japan and Manchukuo in March and April 1938. 4. BOMPARD, Paolo. (Bologna 1887) Doctor in Jurisprudence. Director, Bank of Rome. Commendatore, Order of the Crown of Italy. Representative: Fascist Confederation of Insurance and Credit Houses. Cross-Reference koa isshin with the South Manchurian Railway Company logo 5 Quote
Kiipu Posted November 6, 2023 Report Posted November 6, 2023 贈パオロ、ボムパルド殿 Oku Paoro Bomuparudo-dono [Gift to Mr. Paolo Bompard]. 満鉄製作 日本刀 松岡洋右 Mantetsu seisaku Nihontō Matsuoka Yōsuke [Manufactured by South Manchuria Railway Japanese Sword Matsuoka Yōsuke]. Mr. Matsuoka was president of South Manchuria Railway at the time of the gift. Yōsuke Matsuoka 3 Quote
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