Pig n the Poke or a good buy it now?

Stephen · March 18, 2014

Had a bid in on this at a steal then poof it was gone, relisted now with a buy it now price. someone must have told him what it might be worth.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/371026167791?_t ... 957wt_1052

might make a good starter sword at that price, id take the chance but alas no money.

but then again it might be a pig n a poke, chance you take on ebay out of hand.

Org auction Bid retraction and cancellation history

Bidder Action Date of Bid and Retraction

Member Id: budo-to( 563) Cancelled: US $475.00

Explanation: The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid: Mar-18-14 05:21:25 PDT

Cancelled: Mar-18-14 06:55:37 PDT

private listing -- bidders' identities protected Retracted: US $476.66

Bid: Mar-09-14 16:54:31 PDT

Retracted: Mar-14-14 15:19:27 PDT

private listing -- bidders' identities protected Cancelled: US $1,800.00

Bid: Mar-13-14 13:49:48 PDT

Cancelled: Mar-18-14 06:55:36 PDT

private listing -- bidders' identities protected Retracted: US $1,800.99

Bid: Mar-10-14 11:08:35 PDT

Retracted: Mar-18-14 05:09:00 PDT

private listing -- bidders' identities protected Cancelled: US $101.00

Bid: Mar-09-14 10:16:17 PDT

Cancelled: Mar-18-14 06:55:37 PDT

private listing -- bidders' identities protected Cancelled: US $300.00

Bid: Mar-09-14 16:51:43 PDT

Cancelled: Mar-18-14 06:55:37 PDT

Marius · March 18, 2014

"Items are sold AS IS with no warranty expressed or implied"

A bit of a risk, no?

Adrian · March 18, 2014

Common sense says he wouldn't have canceled a 1800$ bid if he knew the item wasn't worth 1800$. But common sense (and two clicks on his feedback profile) also says that the seller is far from being an expert so even if he really thinks that the sword is worth more then 1800$ that's not necesarely true.

It all boils down to what you think you can sell the sword for and the risk you're willing to take. What I see in the pics looks like a nice package but I doubt it's worth risking 3000$. The photos aren't exactly aoi-art grade so the risk to meet a hagire upon inspection isn't small. And the fittings won't help you out of the hole in that case.

Of course, that's just my noob opinion given to someone who hates my guts with no apparent reason :lol:

Brian · March 18, 2014

He didn't cancel the $1800 bid. That one was cancelled by a bidder. I suspect to intimidate anyone who was planning on bidding, and to show how high he would go. It was only a few hundred at that point.

The seller cancelled the remaining bids subequently, and relisted. It's all an odd one. Tensho koshirae, right?

Brian

christianmalterre · March 18, 2014

bit of an risk is an very gentlemen expression here...LOL!

No Brian-this here certainly is everything else,certainly but not slightest Tensho!

That´s again r. (like me use to say,even you signalised already you do not really like that kind of expressions done for stuff ben offered)

Christian

Adrian · March 18, 2014

He didn't cancel the $1800 bid. That one was cancelled by a bidder. I suspect to intimidate anyone who was planning on bidding, and to show how high he would go. It was only a few hundred at that point.
The seller cancelled the remaining bids subequently, and relisted. It's all an odd one. Tensho koshirae, right?

Brian

Look carefully, the 1800.99$ bid is retracted but the 1800$ bid is canceled.

After taking a closer look, my 2p say that someone bid 1800.99$ on Mar-10-14 11:08:35 PDT, then the seller shill bid 1800$ on Mar-13-14 13:49:48 PDT to push him all the way up. Then the first guy either figured out he was being played (or simply changed his mind) and retracted his bid on Mar-18-14 05:09:00 PDT and then the seller promptly canceled the whole thing on Mar-18-14 06:55:36 PDT.

I'd steer clear from any seller who resorts to shill bidding. But again this has nothing to do with the sword :lol: , it's just a personal approach to doing business.

Stephen · March 18, 2014

First off i carry no hate for anyone as hate only makes one hateful and you become that.

this is his post to me on why it was cancelled

Hi budo-to,

I have relisted this item because the former auction was attacked by several fun bidders who pushed up the price and then retracted their bids. No good experience. They are blocked now.

Best regards!

- tubes!

I think the sword is valid and with the kyo yakidasi it might be a good Yamashiro blade, but Harry said it best "Do you feel lucky" Well do ya @#$@#%$

Tokaido · March 18, 2014

I think the sword is valid and with the kyo yakidasi it might be a good Yamashiro blade, but Harry said it best "Do you feel lucky" Well do ya @#$@#%$

Hello Stephen,

since the blade is in my country, I might take a shot and pic it up afterwards

Anyway, do you think those blotchy ara-nie call for a yamashiro blade? I bet on something like suekoto of Kaga Province...

Greetings

Andreas

PS: Nice tsuka, but the saya looks like one made for a iaito?

Adrian · March 18, 2014

this is his post to me on why it was cancelled

Hi budo-to,

I have relisted this item because the former auction was attacked by several fun bidders who pushed up the price and then retracted their bids. No good experience. They are blocked now.

Best regards!

- tubes!

I think the sword is valid and with the kyo yakidasi it might be a good Yamashiro blade, but Harry said it best "Do you feel lucky" Well do ya @#$@#%$

Well, if you look at the timing of the bids and of the retraction/cancellations you'll see that his explanation doesn't make much sense. He just tried to shill bid on the guy who bid 1800.99$ and had to cancel the whole thing when that guy retracted his bid, otherwise he risked to be forced to eat up the ebay fee (which is pretty stiff these days) if no one else beat the 1800$ mark.

Obviously he wasn't going to let you have it for 475$. Tbh I wouldn't risk more then 1000$ given the no return policy.