Gassan Sadakazu

[runagmc]

Hi Jean, I agree. Unfortunately, that doesn't keep some people from feeling that their words are beyond question...

 

We need as many knowledgable members on the board as possible, but in some cases knowledge breeds what comes across as a know-it-all mentality... and when you add in language differences... voilà :D ...

 

In a lot of ways I agree with George, but certainly don't blame Brain, as we have all seen his patience so many times before...

[george trotter]

I agree Jean and Adam,...being wrong is not a shame, it is refusing to accept one is wrong in the face of evidence that is the embarrassing thing.

Of course, books, experts, can be, and are, sometimes wrong, as are all of us, but we can only know this if the evidence is produced to prove it.

I know poor old Brian has had his "bad hair days" with many of us, but I still think it is worth trying to educate the "differently logiced' to understand how mainstream logic works...it is always better to include and educate than exclude and ignore...after all, in most cases these "differently logiced" don't know that they don't know (as a wise man once said).

I know that Jacques used the "L" word, and usually reverses the onus of proof, but I think overall he does not abuse members...unlike the "departed" who almost always attacked personally or ridiculed members who disagreed with them or merely presented some piece of evidence that contradicted their statement, rather than disprove their contra-evidence and this (unlike Jacques who seems to be logic disoriented) shows a real ego problem (not to mention a logic vacuum). But, even these "others" are not beyond learning if given a chance and guidance here.

I don't mean we should all be luvvy, luvvy and super polite etc, I do think there is room for robust debate and points of view (even the occasional joke, and rant etc), but not trolling.

just an idea...

[Jean]

Even Brian has to cope with me and my puns, from time to time, (he dared to censor my last pun ). I cannot help it.

BTW, did you know that Victor Hugo, famous French writer has said "Puns are spirit/brain farts"?

[george trotter]

  Jean said:

I cannot help it.

 

Jean, never give up.... :lol:

 

"Is it never mine to be a brilliant star?

Shall I, for shame. refuse to shine,

or send a single beam afar?

The smallest star, its perfect work hath done,

if it hath but twinkled -"

 

I wonder what the members think of the general thrust of the above idea to "rehabilitate the miscreants"....?

Regards,

[SwordGuyJoe]

You/we can only help those that want to be helped. Jacques has proven on multiple occasions that he gets an idea in his head (right or wrong) and he's stubborn and immovable when he is having a "good hair day", regardless of the multiple sources of "proof" and a flat out asshole when he's not - ie when he calls someone a liar even though he has no idea what he's talking about.

 

I'm not proposing you ban him whatsoever actually quite the opposite. In my experience, there is a dickhead at every party and the goal is to figure out who's who. With Jacques here, we know up front.

[Brian]

Guys,

Please refrain from discussing this. What is done is done. A month ban was instituted, and Jacques has asked me to delete his account and posts, which I have refused to do.

After a month, he has the choice to return or not. That is his choice. I have repeatedly warned a few people about their behaviour, and can no longer be seen as uttering idle threads. At the end of the day, I have to decide what is best for the forum, and for myself.

I will not have people driving away other members, and will not tolerate rudeness or constant bickering.

As said, I do think he can play a meaningful role here if he chooses to, but that choice is his. Others should take note. I am looking to improve the forum this year, and will do what is necessary to bring people here, and bring more advanced members back.

Subject closed. Sorry that this topic had to resort to this.

 

Brian