Sword Stands

[slashxu]

I was wondering if there was a sword stand culture I'm not aware of. Why are most of the better looking sword stands from Japan cost $1k or more. I'm familiar with certain type of wood used in furniture and decorations in China that are just outrageously priced. Does that have to do with the sword stand at all? Or does it have to do with the maker or time created. I don't remember seeing any artist name being advertised with the sword stands, only a approximate time without any credentials. Anyway, I have been wanted to ask this question. Thanks in advance!

 

James

[zentsuji2]

I would imagine the price comes with age,on original Japanese stands.

The lacquer work is outstanding on some examples and there would be signed pieces,check out Google and look at some images of Japanese lacquer work,with shibayama inlays,urushi,there are breathtaking examples,i like the deer antler types.

The Chinese examples are still nice, but I believe many would be modern made,still lovely, but the Japanese are the masters of lacquer, their sword sayas are second to none.

Take a look at Japanese lacquer work,then sword stands and you will see what work is involved.

Look after yourself.

Ian bellis

[slashxu]

Thanks Ian. That make sense. I'm also a collector of various types of wooden Asian antiques, and was just wondering mostly if the wood had anything to do with the higher price tag.

 

James

[runagmc]

I think it's more the lacquer work (takes lots of skill, and time), age, provenance, etc...

 

...not much to do with exotic or especially precious woods, as far as I know. Although, I'm sure there are some examples were precious woods were used... which being a wood worker myself, I would be happy to see...

[Surfson]

There are some very nice reproductions that are made to look old and are quite attractive. They can be had for less than $300.

[Alex A]

Occasionally you see some very nice lacquered kake from Japan on Ebay at a reasonable price.

 

Ps, be careful when buying, too many spare spaces=the need for no spare spaces= -$$$$

[slashxu]

Thanks guys! Some of the lacquer work are indeed beautiful. I might be in the market for one soon as my new sword is coming in.

 

Alex, thanks for the warning. Definitely need to be careful these days on things online.

 

 

James

[Jean]

http://www.e-sword.jp/sale/2014/1410_6010syousai.htm

[Alex A]

Beautiful sword stand, one could get into financial difficulty brousing this site, theres just too much "want"!. :D

[benatthelake]

Would be nice if more NMB members posted pictures of their stands. Especially ones that complement the Koshirae nicely. The one pictured on this thread to me would be too much and distract or clash with the sword. Still beautiful on it's own or perhaps paired with a more subtle higo koshirae.

 

Ben M.

[Guido]

Would be nice if more NMB members posted pictures of their stands. Especially ones that complement the Koshirae nicely.

Does this meet your criteria?

[Andreas W]

James, this is probably not what you are looking for, but I went another route because I couldn't find kake that appealed to me. Thus I thought that a sword stand would be nice that doesn't distract from the object we adore, and had some acrylic stands custom made.

 

Andreas W

[benatthelake]

Would be nice if more NMB members posted pictures of their stands. Especially ones that complement the Koshirae nicely.

Does this meet your criteria?

 

Guido....thank you....wonderful. I really enjoy the 2nd one (brown tones). Did you buy the stands with the swords or have to search for them separately?

 

Again...very very nice.

 

Best regards,

Ben M.

[Guido]

It doesn't happen often that you find swords with the original stand (it's also difficult to know if they actually belong to each other). In both cases I bought the stands because I thought they would go well with the Koshirae.

[zentsuji2]

This is a dangerous hobby,one can read a thread say on tsuba,and bam, you see their intrinsic beauty, then mounts,then tassels, swordstands, armour it goes on and on.

I used to put the lottery on for a nice car, house etc,now it's for my Japanese museum, inside the house,displaying all the wondrous items they made.

If only I were rich.

Best regards to all fellow collectors. Ian bellis

[Brian]

Beautiful stands Guido. They complement the swords perfectly.

 

Brian

[Alex A]

How old would the stands be Guido?, i particularly like the second one.

 

This is a common 70/80s type, picked it up for £80 (if i remember rightly) delivered from Japan, does the job for now.

[Curran]

Dating stands is not easy.

 

I bought this one because out of an antiques shop because I liked the wood and the simple lines of the design. Had it a long time and never though to translate the bottom.

I just assumed late Edo, though the Japanese red oak was nice strong and light.

 

Turns out it is probably from 1754.

Had quite some miles on it, but it wears well as a patina and looks phenomenally better now after wife took special care to research how to clean and care for it.

[Jean]

Nice one, Curran :D Grace did a splendid work on it. I love wood. No wax, I guess, some oil?

[Guido]

How old would the stands be Guido?

The one with the Aoi no Gomon is Edo period; it's signed, but not dated.

The second one with the lacquer directly on wood is 20'th century IMO, my guess is about 50 years old.

[O koumori]

Home - made

 

Dan K.

[slashxu]

Wow. Some great looking displays here. I'm so envious

 

Andreas, I think those are great inside a glass display. You are right the swords definitely get all the attention.

 

Alex, I saw that similar stand from a few places. It is more affordable. Decisions decisions.

 

Thanks for sharing.

 

Take care guys!

 

James

[GARY WORTHAM]

Maybe this shows one of my sword stands.

 

Ok, it went thru.

 

The intact deer skull for a sword stand, includes it's lower jaw as a tsuba stand. Ist one i have seen.

[estcrh]

You can find nice used stands in Japan that while not particularly old or elaborate (or expensive) have a certain look that a brand new stand just does not have.

[slashxu]

It's quite enjoyable to have a peak at fellow collector's mini museums. The setups are beautiful!

 

James

[BIG]

Hi all,

 

http://www.katana-no-kake.com

 

Best Regards

[Eric H]

Sword Stand for Daisho

 

When a sword is placed on its rack, the sageo should be wound neatly round the scabbard at the kurikata. The colouring of the sageo corresponds to that of the scabbard to which it is attached; if the latter is in good Japanese taste, quiet and sober, the sageo will be similar, but gaudy and variegated braid is often found on a flashily mounted weapon.

 

The sword rack should, if possible, contrast in colour and decoration with the sword placed upon it.

Eric

[Clement]

I'm more like this.

 

I love how the curve of the wood fits with the sori of the shirasaya (not on this picture). I will order mine soon.

 

[Dr Fox]

Following on with the antler theme!

[raven2]

I'm more like this.

 

I love how the curve of the wood fits with the sori of the shirasaya (not on this picture). I will order mine soon.

 

 

Actually, that is the stand that I have. It is very graceful and still very Japanese.