No information on Kiyo Haru Tsuba

[Kurikata]

Hello,

 

another tsuba i just purchased. Kanjis in signature look like being KIYO (Kei?) HARU + Kakihan.

But I do not see any Kiyo Haru with such kanjis in Haynes nor in Shosankenshu or in Markus Sesko's Genealogy.

 

Does someone has ideas on school ? Thank you for help.

[Kurikata]

Hello,

 

I probably should have posted this on the "translation assistance " ? Nobody can confirm the signature?

 

"A l'aide", "Help" , "Hilfe", "Securo" !!!!!

[John A Stuart]

凉晴 are these the kanji? The first is troublesome. John

[Toryu2020]

Bruno -

 

A lot of folks will be away from their computers on the way to Tampa. Think about how signatures work. They follow basic rules. For three character signatures on swords one expects to see "saku" or "tsukuru" as the the third kanji and the first two by elimination are the smiths name. On fittings this is a good place to start, but we also have to add the frequent use of kao. Sometimes three characters are actually two kanji with a kao. Unlike in swords, fittings artists often use "art names", inspired by the practice of lay-priests and scholars. These names are often rendered with Chinese readings. A common character used is 齋(SAI)　 denoting an old man or scholar. I think your three characters are;

 

涼晴齋

[Kurikata]

Thomas, John.

 

Thank you for Your answers. In fact i totally forgot That Tampa mighty have an impact.

 

Thank you again.

[Kurikata]

Hi NMB friends,

 

10 years later I still do not have any real answer to this signature translation... 涼晴齋 is definitively not Kiyo Haru Sai but should someone can help me, I would  highly appreciate.

 

Thank you for your help

[Geraint]

Dear Bruno.

 

I wonder if the first kanji is not ryo?  (150 in Self and Hirose)

 

All the best.

[Andi B.]

Kyōharu Sai 京晴齋

Ryōharu Sai 涼晴齋

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[Kurikata]

Thank you very much Geraint and Andi for your help!

[Nobody]

One of possible readings is Ryoseisai (凉晴齋).

 

[Kurikata]

Thank you Moriyama San!

 

I still do not find any tsubako with this name in my books. Probably a second league artist at the end of Edo erea.