jrg Posted February 17, 2014 Report Posted February 17, 2014 Hello - I bought this wakizashi several years ago as part of a fund raiser for a renovation of a veterans lodge. Was hoping to get everyone's thoughts on the piece - quality, age, maker, etc. look forward to any comments. Thanks! Length of the blade in the last pic is 19 3/8 inches. John Gannon Quote
hxv Posted February 17, 2014 Report Posted February 17, 2014 Ninjato? Pictures, please. Hoanh EDIT: If you have trouble posting pictures, remember there are two requirements on each picture: 1)must be less than 2400x2400 pixels, and 2)must be less than 1MB. Quote
jrg Posted February 17, 2014 Author Report Posted February 17, 2014 Thank you. The system made it seem like my pics uploaded. I will crop them smaller and try to upload before end of day Quote
Ken-Hawaii Posted February 17, 2014 Report Posted February 17, 2014 Still no photos I can see. And please sign your name on each post, per Brian's rules. Ken Quote
hxv Posted February 17, 2014 Report Posted February 17, 2014 Kevin, I am most likely wrong, but the closest I can read the mei is Kanetora. I can find only one Kanetora of the Kiyomaro school, making this sword shinshinto. The second kanji was tough for me to read. Other than that, I don't have any more info for you. I am completely ignorant of shinshinto swords. Close up pictures of the hamon and boshi would be great. Regards, Hoanh Quote
Ken-Hawaii Posted February 17, 2014 Report Posted February 17, 2014 I would be really surprised if this smith is from the Kiyomaro school. But, like Hoanh, I can't read the second Kanji at all. Ken Quote
hxv Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 Thank you Morita san. Regards, Hoanh Quote
jrg Posted February 18, 2014 Author Report Posted February 18, 2014 I appreciate everyone's comments. Does this appear to be a sword of very high quality, is it just average, etc. i am hoping to better understand what I have here. Best regards, John Added boshi pics Quote
cabowen Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 Hard to day for sure from the photos but it strikes me as average. Quote
runagmc Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 Hi, your wakizashi was likely made in the 1400-1500s in Mino province, where there were many smiths using names starting in 兼KANE. The second kanji looks a little strange to me, but Morita-san says it's Kanehiro, so you can bet he's right... (I can see it, but it looks like there are extra strokes or something) ---- Anyway... Even though this sword is probably not worth so much out of polish (or even in polish- 2 - 3 grand?), it could be a nice looking ubu Mino wakizashi if restored by someone who will do it right... You can read many posts here about the right and wrong ways to restore. Basically --- don't, unless you're trained... other than oiling and keeping clean the blade. BTW, it has enough potential not to go chopping limbs with it... ... in other words, it should be preserved... Quote
jrg Posted February 18, 2014 Author Report Posted February 18, 2014 Thanks everyone. One more detail I wanted to mention. The blade gets slightly thicker before the tip. It's very graceful almost like it was mildly reinforced at the tip for penetration. Is that a common feature of this era smith? Quote
hxv Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 From your description, it sounds like a naginata naoshi or wakizashi made in the style of a naginata naoshi. In either case, the slight thickening near the tip is normal. Can you get close up pictures of the boshi? I am interested in knowing if the boshi has a turn back? It will tell us something about the sword. I suspect that we will see a turn back on the boshi. Regards, Hoanh Quote
k morita Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 runagmc, For your Kanji study. :D Quote
Jean Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 Thanks Morita san, another hiro kanji Quote
jrg Posted February 20, 2014 Author Report Posted February 20, 2014 added boshi pics on one of my posts on page one Quote
hxv Posted February 20, 2014 Report Posted February 20, 2014 John, I believe I see a boshi turn back on both sides. So, your sword doesn't have a reshaped kissaki. There are a lot of Kanehiro listed. Although many of them are Mino sword smiths, some are not. For instance, in addition to Mino, I see Kanehiro listed from Echizen, Echigo, Hizen, etc. If you want to learn more about your sword, you will need to build up a library and read up on the characteristics of different time periods, traditions, schools, smiths, etc. Even with books, it's a long, tough road, but it's an important part of learning and collecting. There is no short cut. It's a process that I absolutely suck at, but am trying to improve. You will also need to check the mei (signature) against your reference library to see if you can find a smith that signs with two characters, with (nearly) identical kanji strokes, as what's on your sword. Also, your sword will need to be in decent polish for subtle features to be seen. Simply seeing the hamon is not enough, and in poor polish, the hada, an important part of the artistic appeal of Nihonto, cannot be seen. It's a steep learning curve, but it will make one appreciate Nihonto more than simple curiosity. You can use the "Search" button to find out what books are recommended to the beginning collector. I wish you lots of fun on your learning journey. Regards, Hoanh Quote
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