Verity Posted December 17, 2013 Report Posted December 17, 2013 Hi guys, I am somewhat new to collecting and wanted to get your thoughts on this tsuba? signed Umetada... Do you think it is a cast copy or genuine? I am interested in hearing the rationale behind your votes. Thanks for the guidance! Regards, Adam D. Quote
Thierry BERNARD Posted December 17, 2013 Report Posted December 17, 2013 100% fake chinese copy Quote
Verity Posted December 17, 2013 Author Report Posted December 17, 2013 Thanks, Thierry! Can you elaborate as to what leads you to that judgment? I am trying to learn to discern. What first made me suspicious was the mei. It doesn't seem as crisp as it should. I would appreciate what things you spotted. Regards, Adam D. Quote
Marius Posted December 17, 2013 Report Posted December 17, 2013 hint1: what metal (alloy) is it made of? Is that iron? copper? brass? or rather something else? look at the pores in the metal hint2: can you see how the gilding was done? Do you see the splatters? Does that look like good workmanship to you? hint3: carving: are those flowers really carved? advice: look at some real tsuba, buy some books. You'll get the hang of it very quickly Quote
Jean Posted December 17, 2013 Report Posted December 17, 2013 Adam, The question is rather: Why do you think it could have been an Umetada tsuba? https://www.scholarsresource.com/browse ... 2142569608 Quote
kusunokimasahige Posted December 18, 2013 Report Posted December 18, 2013 Adam, its clearly cast. KM Quote
Peter Bleed Posted December 18, 2013 Report Posted December 18, 2013 All the surfaces of this thing are slightly concave. This indicates that it was cast. As the metal (whatever it might be) cooled , it drew in. Look at all the surfaces. They are all slightly concave. Clear indication of casting Oh, I should also say that it looks like crap, too. Peter Quote
Alex A Posted December 18, 2013 Report Posted December 18, 2013 Definitely one of low quality copies, they have a look about them, "monkey metal", is the term i would use. If these had been around in the warring states period, Samurai would have needed eye protection from a huge increase in flying shrapnel. Quote
Verity Posted December 18, 2013 Author Report Posted December 18, 2013 Thanks all for the great guidance. I am trying to develop my eye to spot fakes such as this. This seller did wind up taking someone for $164. Yikes! Quote
Alan Morton Posted December 28, 2013 Report Posted December 28, 2013 Adam meet with other collectors in your immediate area they will be you greatest teachers ,and for free Also look at this link http://jameelcentre.ashmolean.org/collection/7/10237 study the detail and in zoom. Alan Quote
raven2 Posted December 29, 2013 Report Posted December 29, 2013 Hi Adam, You might also try these two links: http://home.earthlink.net/~jggilbert/tsuba.htm http://shibuiswords.com/ Lots of good info in both places. Quote
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