Ruben Posted November 26, 2013 Report Posted November 26, 2013 Hi Gentlemen, on shirasaya you see from time to time some washi wrapped around the tsuka. I wanted to ask if someone knows when done on koshirae- tsuka, its also paper than? Cause I wanted to do it on my handle (deoskin). It´s getting worn out so fast, from just touching it 3 times its clearly visible (also with clean hands ). Especially were the right hand is placed, that will look ugly in future. If it were all over ok, but the right hand is more in use when viewing the sword. I will use it with both hands at times as well, eventually the right hand side will get shabby faster. Best regards ruben Quote
Guido Posted November 26, 2013 Report Posted November 26, 2013 Soft metal fittings and Koshirae are usually handled with white cotton gloves. Or is it a "user sword" (i.e. for Iaidô)? Quote
Ruben Posted November 26, 2013 Author Report Posted November 26, 2013 Hi Guido, its new made koshirae, but with old fittings. The menuki are not very special or old, and the rest will not get touched anyway. I have gloves as well, when touching the nakago I always wear one. Kashira is made of horn. Its a "good user sword", but it will not be used often, not in dojo anymore. Anyway cutting with it is taboo, its to precious to me. The thing is I got pretty sweaty hands. Same is also lacquered, to protect the tsuka from moisture. Greetings ruben Quote
Guido Posted November 26, 2013 Report Posted November 26, 2013 Ruben, you should do it the other way around - handling the Nakago with your bare hands and the Koshirae with gloves. And what do you mean by "not much use"? Even a little use can ruin an antique blade .... :? Quote
Ruben Posted November 26, 2013 Author Report Posted November 26, 2013 Guido Schiller said: Ruben, you should do it the other way around - handling the Nakago with your bare hands and the Koshirae with gloves. And what do you mean by "not much use"? Even a little use can ruin an antique blade .... :? Thanks Guido, I will not touch the kodogu. Have to wipe the iron tsuba from time to time cause it came back rusty from the koshirae maker.(was a 3 years nail-biter project, better to don´t name someone,... ) I dont want to touch the nakago with my sweaty hands, it looks pretty fresh for over 150 years age. The koshirae is new made and not juyo level, should be, but its not that well made. It was not an easy project, but the idea was to use it as shinken for Iai. Greetings ruben Quote
gauze3539 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Posted December 3, 2013 Well, I don't know if you would like this way or not, but I would wrap sports or medical tape which has self stick ability all around tightly when you like to play with the sword. I just recently got my first nihonto in shirasaya and I just did like that on the photo because I don't want the shirasaya tsuka get darken and dirtied eventually by every touching. Although it's ugly, you can protect doeskin being worn out every time you use. Thanks. Jason C. Quote
kusunokimasahige Posted December 3, 2013 Report Posted December 3, 2013 Sports tape ???????????????????????????? Play with the sword ????????????????????? I am sorry but that part of this topic really makes me Gauze (Jason), once more : Buying stuff without realizing what you have or having studied it, and then giving this kind of advice is offensive to say the least. Please do NOT use that sword of yours for cutting or even Iaido. Study it, look at it, appreciate it, care for it. YOU are its custodian. Do not think that these swords are battle ready. If you want to buy a battle ready sword for whatever reason, buy a modern day sword. KM Quote
gauze3539 Posted December 3, 2013 Report Posted December 3, 2013 Well. The sports tape was mentioned since the poster ask if he could have some other way. This tape on my shirasaya handle much make me happy because I can get it out from getting dirty and oily since my palms dropping too much sweat. It's not a consequence of being not knowing basic etiquette about the sword. I did not mean neither I would store as it. Any time he needs to touch the tsuka for some reason, he could have done this and then remove it perfectly after he use the sword. I am not sure how exactly call this type of tape but it's sticky but does not stick to hairs so it would be good try for especially doeskin wool and I am free from getting dirty on shirasaya handle now from my hands oils. I don't like to put any kinds of gloves on my hands because of excessive temperature buildings. ( I have basically higher temperature on hands and don't like to wear gloves more than 2 minutes.) Playing means to me is just anytime holding the tsuka for any reason. I should express as this way. Sorry. This tape wrapping is the solution I came up with. I am not taking any kind of advice as offensive so please always correct me though when I am wrong. I admit my solution could have enough reason to make someone mad. But Please don't think I am those of who careless rookie on the stuff. I am putting all my best to preserve this sword as of now. I know what I am dealing with. I will not even mentioning around those stupid questions anymore. Thanks. I would buy some Iai katana for the cuttings since I would start iaido soon. Jason C. Quote
b.hennick Posted December 3, 2013 Report Posted December 3, 2013 Try using pallet tape - basically commercial saran wrap. It comes in diffeent widths. For pallets about one foot wide. I use 2 inch and 4 inch stuff. The local dollar store may have some. I get mine from Lee Valley Tools - they call it flat twine. Quote
Tcat Posted December 3, 2013 Report Posted December 3, 2013 I believe a rice paper wrap is often used to stop sweat and oils messing up the Ho wood finish on shirasaya. It looks like a diagonal wrap, like a napkin rolled around a french loaf :D Im not sure how the Japanese did it exactly but you could make a rudimentary one which could be fastened discreetly with a small amount of sellotape. How it looks in the end will depend on the level of your freestyle wrapping skills I like Barry's suggestion too. Quote
Dr Fox Posted December 3, 2013 Report Posted December 3, 2013 gauze3539 said: . I don't like to put any kinds of gloves on my hands because of excessive temperature buildings. ( I havebasically higher temperature on hands and don't like to wear gloves more than 2 minutes.)Jason C. Jason. A lead to a possible suggestion here. Taping or any other coverings on the tsuka, can be done with different problems in mind. So why not protect tsuka from the hands? gloves! yes but specialised gloves, the first are eczema covers which are a fine gauze glove, and then there are the heavier cotton gloves, which I have that are vented when bought. you can of course vent any cotton gloves, slitting the backs. Quote
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