Choji oil a bad idea?

[Ken-Hawaii]

I agree with Henk-Jan on this one. Of course living in the tropics with the Pacific Ocean less than a stone's throw away makes the periodic application of an oil film quite mandatory.

 

I bought a small yari blade recently, & was studying it, but left it sitting on a piece of toweling while I ate lunch; by the time I returned (30-40 minutes), I could already see signs of rust on the side facing my window...

 

Ken

[Jean]

Can you elaborate H-J on your last sentence?

[kusunokimasahige]

Hahahaha I see my mistake now...

 

I meant: Not having oil on the blade is detrimental. (edited the mistake out now).

 

A tiny film of oil goes a long way to preserve it.

 

And about the photos with flash one should regularly take....

 

I do not see rust on my nakago with my naked eye. When looking at a photo of it taken with flash, i see it clear as day.

 

Same goes for my Tetsubin.

 

KM

[runagmc]

Not having oil on the blade is detrimental

 

I would say steel is pretty stable in a climate controlled indoor environment. Especially in an air tight shirasaya... However, oiling obviously can't hurt...

[w.y.chan]

Shirasaya is wood and wood breathes so it is not air tight.

A laquered saya in a normal koshirae as far as the protection for the wood of the saya is concern is actually more air tight.

 

Wah

[Alex A]

Agreed, if you want air tight, buy a large air tight plastic container, put a few desiccant bags in there, going to extremes though maybe, depends on how careful you want to be, If I had some very high priced swords (which I don't), might be tempted, the way meteorites are stored. You can go further though, maybe place the box in a dehumidification cabinet, but unlikely any of us will go down that route :D

 

Alex.

[David Flynn]

Yes, one shouldn't cross the road. One may be hit by a bus.

[kusunokimasahige]

Or a rabbit, for that matter.

 

Anyway, where I live rust is in the air.....

 

http://www.netherlands.climatemps.com/

 

Where Jean lives, Smog will do the trick if he opens his windows for a month. At least he will have some Kurosaya.

 

 

KM

[Jean]

Paris is not London, no smog :D

[kusunokimasahige]

Ah.... So ka....

 

 

 

http://vivrelemarais.typepad.fr/blog/20 ... -faux.html

 

 

[Jean]

Sorry H-J, smog which is a contraction of fog and smoke is typical English, in Paris we have mist a few days a year and seldom fog. Ozone pollutin from time to time. Nothing exceptionnal, your picture is mist, nothing to endanger any sword.

[kusunokimasahige]

I believe you Jean. Have been in Paris a few times, love the city. It was not as bad as for instance London,or what I have heard about Beijing, but there still is black soot on the buildings and air pollution. Of course not so much that it would ruin swords, that was a jest

 

KM

[Alex A]

Cant say everything as not been covered

 

Alex.

[paulb]

Sorry for the deviation from the original post but Jean is showing his age

Since the clean air act some when in the 1960's the London "pea Soup" smog is a thing of the past ( last seen I think in 1965)

All we have now are gentle mists rolling beautifully from water meadows through the streets of our historic capital :D

[Jean]

My English teacher was Irish, perhaps a bit biaised, Paul :D

[Alex A]

Check out this, didnt know it was that bad!, how lucky we are. Sorry to deviate, no need to reply.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSlwGIapFJI

 

Alex.

[kusunokimasahige]

To believe we live in a world were the air is still clean is a fallacy. The fine dust in our air is one of the reasons, amongst pesticide use, the use of plastics, fossil fuels, nuclear fuels, dumping of waste in oceans, GM farming, Co2 emissions and so much more, that so many people die of cancer. We live in an unbelievably polluted world and about 99% of the air we breathe and the food we ingest is not only not healthy, but deadly in the long term.

 

Of course that bears little on swords, but still it is something we should not deny.

 

KM

[Adrian]

the food we ingest is not only not healthy, but deadly in the long term.

 

Henk-Jan, I think pretty much any food is deadly on the long term. We all have to eat until we die :lol:

[kusunokimasahige]

 

True, however I was on about Monsanto crap etcetera.

 

 

KM

 

Being this discussion has veered (by my fault) away from Choji oil, I would say... back on topic

 

Which brand of oil is the best ?

[Adrian]

 

True, however I was on about Monsanto crap etcetera.

 

I know, but even this is a matter of perspective. For some people starving in Somalia, a nice supply of Monsanto crap would be a God given gift.

 

Of course this doesn't mean we should accept all the crap that the food producers want to push down our throats. TBH I think that everyone should eat as healthy as they can afford.

 

Back to choji oil, I guess that it wasn't too bad for nihonto for quite a few hundred years (in some cases closer to a thousand then to 500).

[w.y.chan]

Back to choji oil, I guess that it wasn't too bad for nihonto for quite a few hundred years (in some cases closer to a thousand then to 500).

 

Pretty sure it wasn't choji oil that was used 500-1000 years ago.