Assistance with tsuba

[Ray Singer]

Hi all, would someone be able to assist with the mei on the attached tsuba?

 

Many thanks,

Ray

 

[george trotter]

This name (lhs with kao) is Noriyuki (also read Kuzui)...his art name (rhs) is Bosoken.

Hamano School.

Noriyuki I, born Temmei 7 = 1787. Edo, Art names Chugoro, Gaiundai, Bosoken.

Student of Hamano Masayuki

 

Noriyuki II, Edo. names Matsujiro, Masakata, Norinobu, Shojuken.

School of Noriyuki and Nagayuki. Born Kaei 5 = 1852...reached? 82 years.

 

It looks like yours is Noriyuki I unless a gimei or daisakumei or...?

I am not a fittings man, I am just quoting Hara 1905 p.135-6.

Must be more up to date info available.

Hope this helps,

[docliss]

Ray

 

Both Hamano Noriyuki I (H 07454.0) and II (H 07455.0) used the gō of Bōsōken. There is one illustration of a kao quite like that on your tsuba on p.90, N 311 of Joly’s Shōsankenshu that is attributed to Noriyuki II. But the middle kanji of this gō of both of those artists differs from that of your’s, and I fear that the quality of this work is not of the standard of these two, much copied Hamano masters.

 

Your tsuba is, I think, a gimei copy of the work of H. Noriyuki II.

 

John L.

[Ray Singer]

Thank you both, greatly appreciate the feedback on this piece.

 

Best regards,

Ray

[george trotter]

Ray

 

Both Hamano Noriyuki I (H 07454.0) and II (H 07455.0) used the gō of Bōsōken.

 

John L.

 

Oh yes, sorry, meant to say yours is the work of Bosoken Noriyuki I or II (duuhhh...left off or II). Thanks John ).

regards,

[Kurikata]

Hi ,

 

Can someone one give me clues on the fact that this signature might not be Gimei?

 

If the signature is genuine can it be Hamano Noriyuki I or Noriyuki II?

 

Thank you for your advise and expertise

[Marius]

workmanship first, signature second...

 

[Akitombo]

Hi

 

If it is any help, this is a Noriyuki II in my collection which is real.

 

You can compare the signature.

 

David.N

[Kurikata]

David, based on your Tsuba, my signature seems quite different and confirming the "gimei" trend.

 

Mariusz, you are right but i am not that proud of the pictures I have (I post them any way). These pictures are those of the auction house where I purchased the tsuba and as soon as I receive it , I'll provide better ones (ones the Tsuba will be cleaned gently).

 

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