interested in this sword

[bcjm]

Looking for my first sword.

What do you think about this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/121172534389

 

BTW what is Konie?

[Ken-Hawaii]

Hi-

 

Brian's first rule is that you must sign your posts.

 

Ko-nie is small nie. But if you don't know what nie is, you're just not ready to buy anything except reference books so you have some vague idea of what you're buying.

 

Ken

[J Reid]

I wouldn't pay half as much as the seller is asking for that blade. The pitting in the ha is not only a terrible eye sore, but it looks burnt or something. A low quality piece. Ken is also spot on with the knowledge factor. You have much to learn young grasshopper. Put the fire out in your pocket. Buy some books and keep looking.. There are better deals to find in or around your price range anyways.. These are just a few I pulled up really quick for you from just 1 of the many reliable dealers out there. Don't do ebay until you're weathered enough to spot a legit bargain.

 

http://www.aoijapan.com/wakizashi-tanba ... t-reliable <--- (worth removing signature imo)

 

http://www.aoijapan.com/wakizashi-mumei ... shi-ryokai

 

http://www.aoijapan.com/wakizashi-kane-suriage

 

http://www.aoijapan.com/wakizashi-mumei-naokatsu

[chrstphr]

The envelope for the papers looks like its from the 80s, not 1956. and a section of the paperwork looks like someone took some white-out to some of the printing or tried to change the paperwork. I would not believe this paper nor that is was issued to this blade.

 

secondly Tokubetsu Kicho - Extraordinary Work (light green) is green paper, not what is shown in the photo.

Kicho was white which was the lowest level. Juyo Token was the highest level since 1951, so it would have been the level in 1956 which is contrary to what this ebay guy wrote.

 

 

all in all i would be very suspicious and not interested.

 

Chris

[Eric H]

I would not believe this paper nor that is was issued to this blade.

The Kicho Ninteisho Origami (white paper) were issued from 1948 until 1982

 

The mei reads: Hitachi Daijo Fujiwara Narisada....the Origami issued in 1956 is Ok.

 

Eric

[Lance]

a section of the paperwork looks like someone took some white-out to some of the printing or tried to change the paperwork. Chris

 

 

That area was where the name of the owner or person submitting the sword was, it isn't that uncommon to see it removed or covered over.

Regards,

Lance

[Stephen]

theres one pix that shows a big hunker of a blister...over time you will not like that, save your money move on from this sale, JMBMFO

[bcjm]

Thank you for all the input.

Does anyone have one for sale that is good value for the beginner? I can meet at the coming Baltimore sword show in person. PM me please.

 

Thanks.

Bob

[rkg]

Bob,

 

FWIW, the best value for the beginner is to spend the money you were planning to sink into your first piece into some books and traveling to a sword show or three to see a large number of blades in hand (preferably with somebody along to point out what you are looking at) before buying a piece.

 

Best,

 

rkg

(Richard George)

 

Thank you for all the input.

Does anyone have one for sale that is good value for the beginner? I can meet at the coming Baltimore sword show in person. PM me please.

 

Thanks.

Bob

[Stephen]

If your going to B town show, look up Grey, or Mark or other board members, im sure they could point you in the right drection. We alway tell them to read and learn, sometimes buying is the learing process, be it good or bad.

[chrstphr]

The Kicho Ninteisho Origami (white paper) were issued from 1948 until 1982

 

The mei reads: Hitachi Daijo Fujiwara Narisada....the Origami issued in 1956 is Ok.

 

Eric

 

that may be correct, but the seller is claiming it is Tokubetsu Kicho paperwork and saying that was the same level as juyo token back then in 1956. I believe there was Juyo level from 1951. This is a white paper ( Kicho paper) if correct not Tokubetsu Kicho. unless i am wrong on the paper colors and levels or misunderstanding his selling info.

 

Seller states...

"PS: The examination of Jyoyo Token did not exist in 1956 when this Wakizashi received the examination. Tokubetsu Kicho was the same value as Jyoyo Token."

 

perhaps i am misunderstanding the sellers posting.

 

 

Chris

[Jean]

Just to fix the dates:

 

http://www.nihontocraft.com/japanese_sw ... se_sword_2