How old might this wakizashi be?

[Jacques]

Hi,

 

Kunitaro san,

 

I have heard of a merchant (former polisher) bearing this name but for what i know, he never worked in France (but i can be wrong).

[Marius]

Jacques,

 

care to show some examples of real fumbari, then? I agree with Adam - all the swords he has posted here have fumbari, IMHO, same goes for the Sukenaga wakizashi. But who am I to judge. I can only ask you to ellucidate fumbari with some examples.

 

Thank you :-)

[cabowen]

Marius-

 

I would, based on experience, recommend following Adam's path in leaving it alone. You will only waste your time.

[Marius]

Chris,

 

advice taken. Thank you.

 

I now

[kunitaro]

I have heard of a merchant (former polisher) bearing this name but for what i know, he never worked in France (but i can be wrong).

 

Jaques san,

mr.Kurokawa is now 54 years old.

When he went to France, He was 27 years old a student polisher,

lived in a dealer's house in France (Paris i think) for about 3 years for polishing swords in France.

He was sent by a master polisher in Japan by request.

 

This is about another threat about Sashikomi-polish.

I was talking with the master polisher about Sashikomi-togi, and his story is starting from his student Kurokawa in France....so, I asked you, maybe you know them (the dealer and Japanese polisher in that time)

[Jacques]

Hi,

 

Mariusz

 

How many Yasumitsu sword with the word funbari ( 踏ん張り) in the description can you show to us (you will find it in the description of the Sanjô Munechika) ? Photos are just photos and are rarely "talketive".

[runagmc]

Just to be clear in case there is confusion, I posted the Yasumitsu as an example of ko-kissaki on a non-Kamakura sword... not as an example of funbari...

[kunitaro]

I posted the Yasumitsu as an example of ko-kissaki on a non-Kamakura sword... not as an example of funbari...

 

Still good example of Funbari :D

All Japanese (Ubu/Original condition) swords have Funbari.

I think that to find Ubu healthy blade without Funbari is difficult.

High ranking smith's blade have beautiful Funbari which makes beautiful Sugata,

low class, gibutsu/gimei swords are poor sugata which is poor funbari, (still funbari though)

 

To examine Sugata (only), the scanner image is easier than holding a sword in hand...

[runagmc]

To examine Sugata (only), the scanner image is easier than holding a sword in hand...

Good point...

[Jacques]

Hi,

 

I posted the Yasumitsu as an example of ko-kissaki

 

I asked you the description of that sword, Where is it ? More, How do you determine the lenght of kissaki (ko, chu, O) ?

[christianmalterre]

I do not see an Ko-Kissaki-i equally do not see fumbari(or whatever ghost you may see here?)-and i equally do not see an blade worth to ben slightest(ly) worth to ben discussed here...-(again one of those hundreds fleebay blades purchased as "treasure" worth to keep?-LOL!-Sorry???

As posted earlier by one of us,from which i do know he does equally know...this blade is "artificially rusted"(maybe due fire?-water?...maybe even due chemicals!)

and it got obviously "tripotted" in an way no other blade in history got correctly handled eitherway..

 

Those who do not like what i do write here...

see JSSUS Issue Vol. 44 No.3 -May 2012(so to learn something about fumbari,Ko-Kissaki???)

 

If you don´t have-buy you one exemplaire!

 

(Sorry?-i but really can not understand why such very low level items still do get such attention)

(showing this beautiful artwork of an Kiyumitsu and Munechika-is.... - alone just an reason so to reflect on what you see here-i but am very confident-i certainly DO NOT WANT to see the whole rest of the your´s collection....)

BUY BOOKS SO TO LEARN FIRST!

 

 

Christian

[kunitaro]

We are doing Basic Kantei study for beginners with actual items.

Often, Studying only Book doesn't work with actual purchase.

 

to see the sword, if it is Ubu or Suriage, is the first of first for kantei. one of most important matter to exam unknown antique blade.

That is why I am trying to explain, especially for self studying beginners.

[ronin223]

Thanks for trying to clarify this wakishashi. It sounds like its not a good example and I'm only out a couple of hundred dollars. Live and learn.

[kunitaro]

Yes, It is good example for Kantei for beginners.

as you see, many people misjudging...

not because, they didn't know, because of rough/quick viewing.

 

basic of Kantei start to look at Sugata as everybody knows.

at first, you have to see if the blade is ubu nor not,

If you misjudge Suriage sword as an Ubu sword, then all judgement will go wrong.

Funbari become important point to judge this matter,

Then, look at whole sugata and Tsukuri-komi, such as Sori, Shinogi-haba, height, Mune shape and height, Niku-oki of Ji and Nakago etc., to guess schools.

Also, you can see the level of smith. 上作(jo-saku/high class) or 下作(ge-saku/low class)

After those examine, move your eye to Jitetsu and hamon....

 

How do you look at sword ?

The dealers are looking at sword very quickly and make decision. because, they must.

but, collectors don't need to or shouldn't act like a dealer.

you have to stare at each point(or photo) at least 3 min or more,

When you staring (at particular point in your mind) long enough, you will start to see more stuff which you didn't see before by rough viewing.

you start to see how the smith has done, or suriage has done, how polisher has done etc,...

When you stare good enough with good knowledge, you will receive a lot of felling and intention of the artists,

That is a kind of communication with craftsman/artist.

This is an important part of kantei and appreciation of art as well.