nsealrob Posted June 27, 2013 Report Posted June 27, 2013 Dear sword fellows, Someone would like to trade this sword with me. But i have never seen a configuration like this one (Saya) My first impression was; ohh dear...another example of a chinees fake!! Why, The leather tassel looks different. The saya is made of wood with a strange drag The stamps on the fuchi are a little faint And the tsuba....i just don't know hahaha... At the other hand..... this type 95 gunto koshirae....holds an seki blade from, i believe, Sato Kanesumi I will try to post some pictures here...... If there is someone out there who can give me more information on this sword.....i will be very thankfull! Quote
Kai-Gunto Posted June 28, 2013 Report Posted June 28, 2013 Never seen nco with seki blade and the wood saya. It looks well made and I would say its custom made on order for a "rich" NCO Its very nice. Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted June 28, 2013 Report Posted June 28, 2013 ...or it's just a put together piece and given the additional mekugi ana, that's the way I would lean. Quote
Stu W Posted June 28, 2013 Report Posted June 28, 2013 ...or it's just a put together piece and given the additional mekugi ana, that's the way I would lean. I agree with this point of view. Regards, Stu Quote
Toryu2020 Posted June 28, 2013 Report Posted June 28, 2013 How about a photo of the koiguchi? Should tell us if it is new, well made or "continental"... -t Quote
drbvac Posted June 28, 2013 Report Posted June 28, 2013 Nope but the arsenal marks on the kashira may help ? Quote
george trotter Posted June 28, 2013 Report Posted June 28, 2013 The blade is signed Sato Kanesumi saku. Sato Kanesumi was RJT and also made showato...Personal name Kohachi. Hawley 1981 KAN 2349 and Nihonto Meikan p.147 and Slough p.66. I know it's only a few pics, but I'm inclined to think it is correct...maybe originally had a leather combat cover...maybe a senior non-commissioned officer. the marks look correct for one of the commercial sword fittings suppliers. Just my 2 cents. Regards, Quote
Kai-Gunto Posted June 28, 2013 Report Posted June 28, 2013 Very nice sword. Could You show the wood core of the handle and the scabbard throat? Photos of the leather knot would be nice to. Quote
nsealrob Posted June 28, 2013 Author Report Posted June 28, 2013 Hi there, i have added 2 other pictures i hope they are helpful.... As SwordGuyJoe and Stu W allready mentioned my personal feeling is the same... i think these pieces are fitted together.... Unfortunately i have no reverences for the number on the koiguchi at the other hand i can't remamber a number this low?! But still....could this saya be original ?? That is what interest me. (Couldn't find a european example of sabre with this kind of scabberd) In this case i would rather have the Original machine made blade, to proof numbers instead of a possible Hantanren made seki blade!!! I hope someone comes out with some information consurning the saya.... Thank you all for your reply on my question consurning this strainge configuration. Quote
nsealrob Posted June 28, 2013 Author Report Posted June 28, 2013 Never seen nco with seki blade and the wood saya.It looks well made and I would say its custom made on order for a "rich" NCO Its very nice. Dear Gunto, That would be very interesting if i could proof this saya is Original?! At the other hand....the kisaki has a strainge geometry so this blade was not shortened at the nakago but altered at the kisaki to fit this saya (And i think, it's done by a non-Japanese!?!) The number on the koiguchi is 45486.....i can not remember a number this low and if....would the tsuka be brass instead of aluminium?? nsealrob Quote
nsealrob Posted June 28, 2013 Author Report Posted June 28, 2013 The blade is signed Sato Kanesumi saku. Sato Kanesumi was RJT and also made showato...Personal name Kohachi. Hawley 1981 KAN 2349 and Nihonto Meikan p.147 and Slough p.66. I know it's only a few pics, but I'm inclined to think it is correct...maybe originally had a leather combat cover...maybe a senior non-commissioned officer. the marks look correct for one of the commercial sword fittings suppliers. Just my 2 cents. Regards, Dear George, This seems correct as far as i could find...?! About your thinking...that the saya ones be housed in a leather combat cover could be possible.... I know there where complainings from the soldiers because of the weight of there gunto....and wood has been used to solve this problem.... But if i had to solve that problem i wouldn't make such a nice wooden saya hahaha.... nsealrob Quote
george trotter Posted June 29, 2013 Report Posted June 29, 2013 I am beginning to agree...Too many maybe's...this must be a made-up sword. Sorry, Quote
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