Has anyone seen this kind of saya on a type95 gunto before??

[nsealrob]

Dear sword fellows,

Someone would like to trade this sword with me.

But i have never seen a configuration like this one (Saya) My first impression was; ohh dear...another example of a chinees fake!!

Why,

The leather tassel looks different.

The saya is made of wood with a strange drag

The stamps on the fuchi are a little faint

And the tsuba....i just don't know hahaha...

 

At the other hand..... this type 95 gunto koshirae....holds an seki blade from, i believe, Sato Kanesumi

 

I will try to post some pictures here......

If there is someone out there who can give me more information on this sword.....i will be very thankfull!

[Kai-Gunto]

Never seen nco with seki blade and the wood saya.

It looks well made and I would say its custom made on order for a "rich" NCO

 

Its very nice.

[SwordGuyJoe]

...or it's just a put together piece and given the additional mekugi ana, that's the way I would lean.

[Stu W]

...or it's just a put together piece and given the additional mekugi ana, that's the way I would lean.

 

I agree with this point of view.

 

Regards,

Stu

[Toryu2020]

How about a photo of the koiguchi?

Should tell us if it is new, well made or "continental"...

-t

[drbvac]

Nope but the arsenal marks on the kashira may help ?

[george trotter]

The blade is signed Sato Kanesumi saku. Sato Kanesumi was RJT and also made showato...Personal name Kohachi.

Hawley 1981 KAN 2349 and Nihonto Meikan p.147 and Slough p.66.

I know it's only a few pics, but I'm inclined to think it is correct...maybe originally had a leather combat cover...maybe a senior non-commissioned officer.

the marks look correct for one of the commercial sword fittings suppliers.

Just my 2 cents.

Regards,

[Kai-Gunto]

Very nice sword.

 

Could You show the wood core of the handle and the scabbard throat?

Photos of the leather knot would be nice to.

[nsealrob]

Hi there,

 

i have added 2 other pictures i hope they are helpful....

 

As SwordGuyJoe and Stu W allready mentioned my personal feeling is the same... i think these pieces are fitted together....

Unfortunately i have no reverences for the number on the koiguchi at the other hand i can't remamber a number this low?!

 

But still....could this saya be original ?? That is what interest me. (Couldn't find a european example of sabre with this kind of scabberd)

In this case i would rather have the Original machine made blade, to proof numbers instead of a possible Hantanren made seki blade!!!

 

I hope someone comes out with some information consurning the saya....

 

Thank you all for your reply on my question consurning this strainge configuration.

[nsealrob]

Never seen nco with seki blade and the wood saya.

It looks well made and I would say its custom made on order for a "rich" NCO

 

Its very nice.

 

Dear Gunto,

 

That would be very interesting if i could proof this saya is Original?! At the other hand....the kisaki has a strainge geometry so this blade was not shortened at the nakago but altered at the kisaki to fit this saya (And i think, it's done by a non-Japanese!?!)

 

The number on the koiguchi is 45486.....i can not remember a number this low and if....would the tsuka be brass instead of aluminium??

 

nsealrob

[nsealrob]

The blade is signed Sato Kanesumi saku. Sato Kanesumi was RJT and also made showato...Personal name Kohachi.

Hawley 1981 KAN 2349 and Nihonto Meikan p.147 and Slough p.66.

I know it's only a few pics, but I'm inclined to think it is correct...maybe originally had a leather combat cover...maybe a senior non-commissioned officer.

the marks look correct for one of the commercial sword fittings suppliers.

Just my 2 cents.

Regards,

 

Dear George,

 

This seems correct as far as i could find...?!

About your thinking...that the saya ones be housed in a leather combat cover could be possible.... I know there where complainings from the soldiers because of the weight of there gunto....and wood has been used to solve this problem....

But if i had to solve that problem i wouldn't make such a nice wooden saya hahaha....

 

nsealrob

[george trotter]

I am beginning to agree...Too many maybe's...this must be a made-up sword.

Sorry,