centurion Posted June 2, 2013 Report Posted June 2, 2013 I bought recently this piece. Can somebody help with the translation? Thanks Quote
Brian Posted June 2, 2013 Report Posted June 2, 2013 Yep. The signature is totally fake, and I suspect the sword is too. The mei doesn't resemble any real signature at all..not even close. Post more overall pics of the sword so we can check the rest of it? Brian Quote
george trotter Posted June 2, 2013 Report Posted June 2, 2013 It is not a signature. Reading just as you have placed the pic it reads from left to right in kanji "Bu Shi" and in katakana "Su Ka Fu Mi" which means Bushi (samurai) sukafumi...I have no idea if sukafumi means anything. It looks like it was cut with a dremel tool by someone who knows Japanese...maybe a slogan? A pic of the sword would help as the nakago looks reasonable...sword may not be a fake (from what I can see). Maybe the other side has an inscription also? Regards, Quote
Jacques Posted June 2, 2013 Report Posted June 2, 2013 Hi, A pic of the sword would help as the nakago looks reasonable Nakago looks 100% fake Quote
centurion Posted June 2, 2013 Author Report Posted June 2, 2013 Here is the other side and how it looks Quote
Stephen Posted June 2, 2013 Report Posted June 2, 2013 yep your standard copy of a real Japanese sword. Quote
centurion Posted June 2, 2013 Author Report Posted June 2, 2013 Are the inscriptions meaningful, or says "excellent soy sauce"? Leather looks quite used, and fittings on the bottom have a lot of scratches. Quote
george trotter Posted June 2, 2013 Report Posted June 2, 2013 Yes, the guys are correct...this side of the nakago looks terrible...pure fake. the inscription is in Japanese katakana also and seems to say "I-N-Do-Ne-Shi-A" (I think, hard to read upside down-back to front) which is "Indonesia". So...would have helped save time if we'd seen these pics at the start. Sorry...it's a fake. Regards, Quote
Guido Posted June 3, 2013 Report Posted June 3, 2013 Not su-ka-fu-mi, it actually says su-ka-bu-mi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukabumi Quote
george trotter Posted June 3, 2013 Report Posted June 3, 2013 not a scratch then, but part of the kana...makes sense it is Sakabumi since the other side seems to say Indonesia. Quote
Stephen Posted June 3, 2013 Report Posted June 3, 2013 Haven't keep up with the times, When did you move to Jakarta G-man?? Last i knew it was China. Increases my theory that your a secret agent man all that much more. Quote
Guido Posted June 3, 2013 Report Posted June 3, 2013 http://weather.jp.msn.com/local.aspx?we ... 6%E3%83%9F Quote
Guido Posted June 3, 2013 Report Posted June 3, 2013 Haven't keep up with the times, When did you move to Jakarta G-man?? Last i knew it was China. Increases my theory that your a secret agent man all that much more. I moved to Indonesia more than a year ago for the sole purpose of learning some silent deadly techniques, like killing with a paper clip. But it seems they're onto me, since the video link you posted is blocked: Quote
centurion Posted June 4, 2013 Author Report Posted June 4, 2013 So Indonesia and Sukabumi in Japanaese? Why would somebody put indonesian messages on fake sword? The sword looks used in the lower metal fitting with lots of scratches like it was often used and weared, and the leather looks old too. Quote
Jean Posted June 4, 2013 Report Posted June 4, 2013 Andreja, Your guess is as good as mine, mine being : to make this topic last :D Quote
ROKUJURO Posted June 4, 2013 Report Posted June 4, 2013 So Indonesia and Sukabumi in Japan(a)ese? Why would somebody put Indonesian messages on a fake sword? The sword looks used in the lower metal fitting with lots of scratches like it was often used and worn, and the leather looks old too. Andreja, these swords are made by people who have never seen a Japanese sword close enough to be able to copy it, and they are bought by people who know Japanese swords only from bad movies. So everything fits fine, I think. Scratches are generally not a safe sign of being genuine and Japanese, and 'old' is not a precise term in connection with NIHONTO. Can we agree that it is a sword? Then that is all you can say about it. Quote
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