raiden Posted May 26, 2013 Report Posted May 26, 2013 I bought this set by Hashimoto Ishi, they are solid gold with the silver done on top of the golod. A very nice set, great work, good condition, signed, custon boxed and papered. He is a top artist from the Ichijo School. How about everyone guess the price? Quote
Soshin Posted May 26, 2013 Report Posted May 26, 2013 Hi Mike Y., Who wrote the paper and at what level? I have only one tsuba in my collection with a custom fitted box from Japan and a paper and it wasn't cheap. Quote
kaigunair Posted May 26, 2013 Report Posted May 26, 2013 We're guessing how much you paid? ...hmmm...I'm thinking it was either : a) 1 arm + 1 leg b) someone came up to you at a show saying something like "I found these metal things at a garage sale. The vet's widow said it came back from the war. I even have this paper from the emperor (or tojo) stating its an imperial heirloom. I need to buy a new raidator for my car, so I'll take $300 for it." How close am I? If #2, call me when you need funds to buy radiator for your car.... Quote
Bazza Posted May 26, 2013 Report Posted May 26, 2013 How about everyone guess the price? 40 man en??? BaZZa. Quote
Brian Posted May 26, 2013 Report Posted May 26, 2013 Lovely set. Retail Value...I would guess around $6K? Brian Quote
raiden Posted May 26, 2013 Author Report Posted May 26, 2013 so I can see that we have an enormous range of values for this set! My goal is to show that everyone has a different idea of value for almost everything, that is why "fair market value' is an important factor when accessing value on a piece for any reason. To me they were a good buy at $2750US, I factored in the condition, workmanship, theme, maker, genuine signature with certification, custom box and the fact that I do not see anything else that good for that price! Sorry to be a bore! Quote
Brian Posted May 26, 2013 Report Posted May 26, 2013 Real world scenarios aren't boring. I was going by some realized prices on similar menuki fetched at Chisties, so I agree this was a very fair deal. That would make retail around double that if you got them at dealer wholesale? Not excessive for what they are. Brian Quote
Curran Posted May 26, 2013 Report Posted May 26, 2013 Brian- I was impressed by both BaZZa's and your guessed. The Ichijo students seem to command quite the wide spread of amounts, depending on which student and what theme. I didn't have a value in mine, though had seen 1 set of gold ones before- but on one of the higher mark-up sites. _A long time ago_----- I sold a hozon papered tsuba by this smith to one of the big dealers for about $4000. It had two family mon on it, and I got the impression (right or wrong) that the dealer wanted it for the mon as much as/ more than the maker. Otherwise was not a particularly good tsuba example of what this smith can do. Regarding Mike's: I wouldn't have guessed sub $3000 for signed, papered, boxed, solid gold ones that look in decent condition. Quote
Nihonto Chicken Posted May 27, 2013 Report Posted May 27, 2013 Nice pieces, particularly the moon and clouds, it reminds me of my all-time favorites by Natsuo: Quote
raiden Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Posted May 27, 2013 Just so everyone knows, they will be set at $3200 for sale(NMB members), $3750 other wise. Quote
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