runagmc Posted March 24, 2013 Report Posted March 24, 2013 Hi, I wanted to post this wakizashi by the sandai Hoki no Kami Nobutaka because I thought the way the bohi (on the omote) is done is unusual, and I wondered if anyone has seen something like this before. To me, it looks like it was poorly done (the position of the bohi doesn't follow the lines of the sword)- but since the sword has Tokubetsu Hozon papers, I would assume the shinsa team didn't see it as bad craftsmanship ( which would have to mean it was purposely done this way ). I'm sure there's not much anyone can say about it, but it's just something I haven't seen before, so I thought I would post it... http://www.aoijapan.com/wakizashi-hoki- ... a-nobutaka Quote
Grey Doffin Posted March 24, 2013 Report Posted March 24, 2013 Hi Adam, Nothing strikes me as particularly awful about the hi. Normally the 2 hi stop at the same spot on both sides, which they don't on this blade, but since you can't look at both sides at once except in pictures that's not the end of the world. Bo hi on Koto blades tend to occupy the full width of the shinogi ji, and often less than full width on Shinto. Could that explain what you're noticing? Grey Just reread your post. It is unusual how the 2 hi aren't the same width. Seems strange this wasn't fixed at polish. Quote
runagmc Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Posted March 24, 2013 Hi Grey, to me it looks like the hi on the omote is carved a good bit further down from the mune, making the shinogiji extra wide. Just doesn't fit the suguta of the sword IMHO... If you look at the closeups on the aoiart link, it looks even more unprofessional... Quote
Toryu2020 Posted March 25, 2013 Report Posted March 25, 2013 Adrian - I see what you mean - has a classic look of ato-bori. i dont see the paper on your link i wonder if there is any notation there? The temper in the kaeri is quite close to the hi on the omote so we should wonder if original hi were not altered? -t Quote
kunitaro Posted March 25, 2013 Report Posted March 25, 2013 I think That Shinogi line is wrong or moved by polishing. When you see the Shinogi line from Mitsugashira to Nakago, you can see the line is a bit too high (closer to mune line) that is why Hi line is not balanced. What do you think ? Quote
Jacques Posted March 25, 2013 Report Posted March 25, 2013 Hi, Shinogi of omote side is not at the right place (bad polishing). Quote
runagmc Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Posted March 25, 2013 I was mainly interested in the fact that they said the sword has Tokubetsu Hozon papers... I wouldn't think a Shinto wakizashi with bad lines and a poorly executed bohi would get TH papers. Like Tom points out, they don't actually show the papers, so maybe there's a mistake in the auction info. Do you guys think such a sword COULD get TH papers? Quote
Jacques Posted March 25, 2013 Report Posted March 25, 2013 Hi, Mune seems asymmetrical. Quote I wouldn't think a Shinto wakizashi with bad lines and a poorly executed bohi would get TH papers. Like Tom points out, they don't actually show the papers, so maybe there's a mistake in the auction info. Do you guys think such a sword COULD get TH papers? It is possible it was polished after having obtained tokuho. Quote
zatoichi Posted March 26, 2013 Report Posted March 26, 2013 who said it was polished before being papered? Justin Quote
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