soshu hiromasa info

[1tallsword]

reaching out here for anyone that has info one bladesmith hiromasa. I have a wakizashi that has nthk papars stating its period of manufacture to be eisho period aprox. considering the Eisho period was from 1504-1521 im a little puzzled? and this is why, to me this seems late, I have 5 hiromasa dating from 1356 to 1487, but cant find any that late. does anyone have any more info on the line of hiromasa smiths? please any info would be much respected , even if it seems minimal, i want to hear what folks know or have researched. maybe you have a book I do not with different info! lets hear your opinions and why? thank you, FYI i posted a picture in the translation section of the nthk papers that i translated all my slef but got a couple helpful fill ins and corrections, thank you to all. cheers,Jeremy

[NihontoEurope]

Jeremy,

 

There is a 5th gen and 6th gen....well was :-)

 

/Martin

[1tallsword]

thank you martin, do you have any info on the 5th and 6th generations, dates they were active..ect? I will do some digging in the mean time, cheers,Jeremy

[NihontoEurope]

Jeremy,

I found this now:

http://www.sho-shin.com/smiths1d.htm

 

I cannot access my private files at the moment.

 

The date you have is right between the gen(t)s.

 

/Martin

[1tallsword]

thanks Martin for that info. I am now leaning towards the 5th generation hiromasa as the 6th seems too late, Jeremy

[NihontoEurope]

Jeremy,

 

Those dates are typed in by modern men and women.

 

Do a proper research and then decide. Then you will learn new thing along the way.

 

What if someone is wrong with a date?

 

I myself have a few swords with the same dilemma. Some references say 1532 and some 1558.

 

/Martin

[1tallsword]

Point taken Martin, and thank you. I am going to do my own research and digging and see what my conclusion comes up with. It will be fun and enjoying. I will update my findings when done, it may take some time but I will, cheers, jeremy

[Jamie]

You'll find a good many examples online to compare against.

I am not home right now and I won't be for another week or so

And I'll share pics with you of a hiromasa sunnobi Tanto I am currently taking care of

[Markus]

@Jeremy: FYI and from my swordsmith index:

 

Hiromasa (広正), 1st gen., Enbun (延文, 1356-1361), Sagami – „Sōshū-jū Hiromasa“ (相州住広正), „Hiromasa“ (広正), student of the 1st gen. Sōshū Hiromitsu (広光), in old sword books we find drawings of -zukuri ko-wakizashi with date signatures from the Ryakuō (暦応, 1338-1342) to the Jōji era (貞治, 1362-1368) but it seems that there are no more works extant by him today, the depicted blades show a hoso-suguha mixed with ko-midare or an hitatsura

Hiromasa (広正), 2nd gen., Eiwa (永和, 1375-1379), Sagami – „Sōshū-jū Hiromasa“ (相州住広正), „Sagami no Kuni-jū Hiromasa“ (相模国住広正), first name „Kurō“ (九郎), according to transmission the son of Sōshū Masahiro (正広) and a student of Hiromitsu (広光), ō-gunome, suguha, gunome-midare mixed with togariba, wazamono

Hiromasa (広正), 3rd gen., Ōei (応永, 1394-1428), Sagami – „Sōshū-jū Hiromasa“ (相州住広正), „Hiromasa“ (広正), it is said that he also signed with the name „Hiromitsu“ (広光), midare, hitatsura, gunome-midare or suguha

Hiromasa (広正), 4th gen., Bun´an (文安, 1444-1449), Sagami – „Sōshū-jū Hiromasa“ (相州住広正), „Hiromasa“ (広正), gunome-midare, suguha or hitatsura in ko-nie-deki, many blades bear horimono, there are relative many works extant from the 4th gen. Hiromasa onwards, we know blades from the Bun´an to the Kanshō era (寛正, 1460-1466), jōjō-saku

Hiromasa (広正), 5th gen., Meiō (明応, 1492-1501), Sagami – „Sōshū-jū Hiromasa“ (相州住広正), „Hiromasa“ (広正), gunome-midare or hitatsura in nioi-deki with ko-nie, we know detailed and elaborate horimono, he was active around Bunmei (文明, 1469-1487) to Eishō (永正, 1504-1521), jōjō-saku

Hiromasa (広正), 6th gen., Tenbun (天文, 1532-1555), Sagami – „Sōshū-jū Hiromasa“ (相州住広正), „Hiromasa“ (広正), he also worked in Ise province