kissakai Posted February 20, 2013 Report Posted February 20, 2013 I’m not sure if I can do this but I’d like to re-enter my katana from an earlier post but have taken some better photos I received some useful information but I’d like to be a bit more specific and confine my request to a possible style and an approximate date It is signed Nagamitsu I know it will not excite many NMB members but I intend to keep this one, manly for sentimental reasons. I’m considering having it polished but I realise it may not be worth the cost With thanks Grev UK Quote
CSM101 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Posted February 21, 2013 Hi Grev, here is pic from a juyo Nagamitsu signature. I think your sword more or less end muromachi and a polishing is expensive. Uwe G. Quote
kissakai Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Posted February 21, 2013 Thank you Uwe G I really struggle over these katana I've been guided to various themes from members of the NHM (I'm very grateful) but due to inexperience I just don't see it yet Maybe one day :? I didn't even think I was going to grt a reply so I was very pleased to hear your comments Grev UK Quote
ROKUJURO Posted February 21, 2013 Report Posted February 21, 2013 It is possible that my old eyes do not work correctly, but while the NAKAGO seems to have some age (or was made to look so) the HAMON on the pictures does not look convincing to me. I cannot see any activity and my first impression was that of an etched HAMON, not even artificially polished. Looking closely at it or under magnification, is there NIE or NIOI to be seen? Quote
hxv Posted February 21, 2013 Report Posted February 21, 2013 Dear Greg, I think Uwe is tactfully telling you that your sword is not signed by THE Nagamitsu, and it's not worth the cost of polish (from a monetary point of view, of course). Uwe: Please correct me if I am misinterpreting your post. Regards, Hoanh Quote
NihontoEurope Posted February 21, 2013 Report Posted February 21, 2013 Hello, As you can see on the image and on the chisel strokes: The NAGA character was probably original and the third character made with another tool at another time. The second character was removed hours before the third. EDIT: Looking some more at the image...there could be one character below the NAGA. /Martin Quote
kissakai Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Posted February 21, 2013 I accept that it is not the Nagamitsu but I was really interested a possible date Also the comment about the re-polish is fine by me The tactful comment was nice but all these comments still move me forward and an honest opinion was what I was looking for I will check tomorrow for another character Again all comments are appreciated Grev UK Quote
hxv Posted February 22, 2013 Report Posted February 22, 2013 Grev, As far as age goes, I would hazard a guess. The patina on the nakago places the sword in the koto period. The shape and size don't look Kamakura or Nanbokucho. So, by elimination, we have Muromachi as Uwe already wrote. Regards, Hoanh Quote
CSM101 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Posted February 22, 2013 Hi Grev, if you want to keep the sword for sentimal reasons, then don´t do anything. A sword end of muromachi unsigned is worth about 3.000 till 5.000 EUR max. Gimei is 3.000 EUR max. A polishing in europe would cost appr. 1.200 EUR. In Japan definitly more. And you would put money in the sword that you never get back. And so: polishing is expensive. Keep the sword as it is. Greetings Uwe G. Quote
kissakai Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Posted February 22, 2013 I have looked at the hamon and I can’t see any nie or any interesting activity in the hamon. The surface may have a burl like structure but as it is so indistinct I can not be sure My previous post stated that this was bought from the son of the officer (80 years old and still going strong) to whom it was surrendered to in Burma. He was told it was a family sword but I know this could mean anything. I do not believe this to be an etched hamon but an honest piece with some dispute over the mei and it will not excite a true collector Many thanks for all the comments and agree about not having it polished Grev UK Quote
pcfarrar Posted February 22, 2013 Report Posted February 22, 2013 Grev, Put up some photos of the blade angled towards a light source. You could always send it to Tony Norman and see if he will put a window in it for you. Peter Quote
kissakai Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Posted February 22, 2013 I've tried various angles etc and this is the best one I quite liked the suggestion of creating a window Was the person you suggested in the UK If not then is there someone in the UK who can be recommended to do this 'window' Grev UK Quote
runagmc Posted February 22, 2013 Report Posted February 22, 2013 Here's info on how to view the hamon... http://www.ksky.ne.jp/~sumie99/hamon.html Quote
pcfarrar Posted February 22, 2013 Report Posted February 22, 2013 I quite liked the suggestion of creating a window Was the person you suggested in the UK If not then is there someone in the UK who can be recommended to do this 'window' Looks like the hamon is ok and not etched. Tony Norman is in the UK you can contact him on: tonynormanjapaneseswordpolisher@hotmail.com If you send it to Tony he will be able to tell you if its worth polishing or not. Quote
Nihonto Chicken Posted February 24, 2013 Report Posted February 24, 2013 Before you consider the cost of a polish or window, I'd suggest that you get get a good uchiko ball or powder and spend a a number of hours uchikoing the blade. There is no yokote to be seen, so you don't have to worry about erasing that. Here are some links to some of my previous posts on this subject: search.php?keywords=power+uchiko&terms=all&author=Nihonto+Chicken&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search Progress will be slow (which is actually a good thing), but after a few hours whatever activity is present will start to show itself. With enough work, even hada-less mill steel blades with essentially no hataraki will still take on a somewhat pleasing velvet like appearance. Quote
lbkmd43 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Posted February 26, 2013 nagamitsu-kataochi gunome slanted toward nakago san saku boshi elegant hada this blade no way L.Kanarek MD Quote
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