zatoichi Posted January 11, 2013 Report Posted January 11, 2013 I was looking for opinions ( which this board is noted for) on this Nakago. To my eye there seems to be very distinct file marks on part of the Nakago but none on the rest? Fake Mei removal or some of the Nakago rusting and obliterating the file marks, and the rest like virgin snow? Justin Quote
Jamie Posted January 11, 2013 Report Posted January 11, 2013 You might want to post a pic or two. Quote
Gunome Posted January 12, 2013 Report Posted January 12, 2013 Hello, If you spoke about the upper part of the nakago without yasurime, it could come from a machi okuri operation. Quote
Geraint Posted January 12, 2013 Report Posted January 12, 2013 Hi Justin. Is that three mekugi ana? Quote
zatoichi Posted January 12, 2013 Author Report Posted January 12, 2013 Geraint, yes it has three mekugi ana. So has been shortened which would make sense for the rust on the bottom of the nakago. The file marks could be from the reshaping of the nakago to fit the tsuka. It was the clarity of the file marks that made me think that some work had been done more recently to the nakago. Justin Quote
Geraint Posted January 13, 2013 Report Posted January 13, 2013 If you were just to look at the section with the filemarks what period would you assign the blade to? It would seem possible that the suriage was done at about that time making the section without yasurime originally the habaki moto of the blade. I know that's obvious but the condition of the yasurime is then down to the care and conditions of the blade since suriage. if they were done as you suggest to thin down the nakago then that is not always necessary, blades often have a marked thinning just about the habaki moto where metal has been removed through repeated polishes. Habaki can be quite tight over the nakago and somewhat loose when in place. I seem to recall reading somewhere that the nakago of a Masamune was in remarkable condition and looked fresh simply because it had been handled a great deal. The yasurime seem to be consistent on both sides, if you wanted to remove a mei I suspect that you might make sure that this was the case but of course so would you if you made the sword in the first place. If you don't already have it Nakahara had excellent information on suriage. Just some thoughts which I am sure others will add to. Quote
Marius Posted January 13, 2013 Report Posted January 13, 2013 Interesting case of removed mei: http://www.ksky.ne.jp/~sumie99/sword18.html BTW, I don't think there was a mei that was removed, but who knows Quote
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