Translation Assistance

[sensei215]

I just got back out of the hospital and found this gendai waiting for me from a friend. I am having trouble with translating it. I can read the date as 1945 but im having trouble with the rest of it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Tim S

 

 

 

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http://imageshack.us/a/img145/751/gendaiside2.jpg

[Bruno]

I think the last 3 kanji are Kane kuni saku, though I am always wrong.

[Veli]

I think it starts with

於大宮八幡宮

Oite Omiya Hachiman-Gu... (at Omiya Hachiman shrine...)

 

Veli

[sensei215]

Thank you for your efforts any and all help is greatly appreciated. With some of the medications i'm taking i am having a lot more trouble reading kanji. Does anyone know this smith ? My library is very limited on gendai makers

 

 

Tim S.

[Bruno]

Sorry I have nothing on him as it does not seems to be Kato Kanekuni nor Ogawa Kanekuni.

 

Do you have photos of the blade (hamon, kissaki etc)?

[Toryu2020]

I'm Guessing Unryu-shi Minamoto Michikuni saku

 

雲龍子源道国作

[k morita]

Hi,

First,I cannot specify,who is the smith.

Because the mei different from Hiraga Morikuni,or possibly another good skillful unknown smith.

Maybe good Tachi sword!

 

The mei says "Oite Omiya Hachiman-Gu atari,Unryushi Minamoto Morikuni saku".

(Made by Unryushi Minamoto Morikuni, at around Omiya Hachiman shrine.)

於大宮八幡宮辺,雲龍子源護國作

 

Ura mei:

"Made in a day in February 1945 at shrine,as a shadow sword".

於神前,影打,昭和二十年二月日

[cabowen]

When a special commission was received, smiths typically made 3 or so swords, with the one turning out the best used to fill the order. The remaining two or so are known as kageuchi, "shadow swords"...this sword is one of those.

[John A Stuart]

影打 Kageuchi. That is a very interesting addition. In Markus Sesko's book, 'Legends and Stories Around the Japanese Sword', a kageuchi is a second sword made by a smith when given an order to make a sword for a customer. Two swords are forged and polished with the best of the two given to the customer and the kageuchi kept and left unsigned. I guess in this case signed though. John

 

I see the same info posted by Chris.

[cisco-san]

When a special commission was received, smiths typically made 3 or so swords, with the one turning out the best used to fill the order. The remaining two or so are known as kageuchi, "shadow swords"...this sword is one of those.

Very interesting.

But what does indicate that this blade is one of the "shadow swords" - the non typically mei from this sword smith?!

[ROKUJURO]

.......But what does indicate that this blade is one of the "shadow swords" ......

The signature:.....Ura mei: "Made on a day in February 1945 at shrine, as a shadow sword".

於神前,影打,昭和二十年二月日 o

[Drago]

I heard that sometimes when sowrd are made as offerings for shrines, two swords are made. The better one is then given as the offering (shinuchi) and the other is kept by the smith (kageuchi). But I don't know how accurate that is.

[cisco-san]

.......But what does indicate that this blade is one of the "shadow swords" ......

The signature:.....Ura mei: "Made on a day in February 1945 at shrine, as a shadow sword".

於神前,影打,昭和二十年二月日 o

oops, sorry my mistake

already my teacher told me always - "reading is not your strenght"