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Hi Janusz,

 

What are the measurements of both tsuba including thickness? Both tsuba I think are real and of Japanese origin. The second tsuba I am fairly sure is a Kinko (soft metal) Sanmai tsuba from the Edo Period (1616-1868) but can't be completely sure until I see the inside surfaces of the openings as well as a view of the plate rim. The first tsuba which is iron is more difficult and it looks like it dates to the later part of the Edo Period (~1770-1868) and would likely be the work of the Shoami school from that time Period. The Shoami would also work these type of sukashi designs like this among a course surface. This late Edo Period date I think is indicated by heavily contrived hammer marks on the plate surface and dry blackish color of the patina. The rim cover of the first tsuba was likely added much later and is not original while the rim cover on the second tsuba is original and is typical of Sanmai tsuba and how they are made. I hope you find some of the information helpful.

 

 

 

Yours truly,

David Stiles

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