Wim V Posted October 19, 2012 Report Posted October 19, 2012 Hello everyone, A member of our To-Ken club asked me to translate the signature on the nakago of a yari (see attached pictures please). The best I can make of it is: ?善定尾吉勝作 (???? Yoshikatsu Saku) However, I have no idea about the meaning of the first four kanji. Moreover, I did not find any information on a smith named "Yoshikatsu", at least not with this kanji for "Yoshi", so I have a rather strange feeling about this signature (maybe gimei?) The information on the ura seems to include hiragana but is even more obscure to me :? . Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks and best regards, Wim Quote
DirkO Posted October 22, 2012 Report Posted October 22, 2012 国善 Kuniyoshi ? (not sure about Kuni - seems to be some extra strokes on top?) 定尾 Sadao? (not sure of reading) Quote
Toryu2020 Posted October 22, 2012 Report Posted October 22, 2012 My guess would be 関善定尾吉時作 Seki Zenjo O Yoshitoki saku - Second generation... -t Quote
Markus Posted October 22, 2012 Report Posted October 22, 2012 I think Thomas is correct. It is a little odd that the character for "Saka" (坂・酒) in "Sakao" (坂尾・酒尾) is missing. The inscription on the other side is the name of the yari I guess. I have no clue about the beginning but it ends with "no kame no yari" (の亀之鈛). Quote
Wim V Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Posted October 24, 2012 Gentlemen, Thank you for your input . I believe you are completely right the mei reads Seki Zenjo O Yoshitoki Saku. I was on a false track looking for Yoshikatsu. It is indeed strange that the kanji for "Saka" as in Saka-O is missing. In the swordsmith literature index I found only one reference to Zenjo Yoshitoki, which is an oshigata in Zuhan Tomei Soran. I had a look at this oshigata and I don't feel it looks very similar with the inscription on this yari, so I still have my doubts about the legitimacy of the mei on the yari ... Anyway, thanks again for the insight. Quote
mdiddy Posted October 24, 2012 Report Posted October 24, 2012 Wim, Here is the mei from a Zenjo Yoshitoki I had at one time that you can also compare to. I remember it has a wild gunome temper that reached the shinogi in places. Best, Matt Quote
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