peter Posted October 14, 2012 Report Posted October 14, 2012 Hello gents i just got this hollyhock tsuba over the weekend and hope i could get some information on it,its quite rusty and may have a little opening many thanks Quote
Ford Hallam Posted October 14, 2012 Report Posted October 14, 2012 Hi Peter, some sharper images, especially of the inner walls to the openings, would be helpful. I can tell you what it 'appears' to be but from what I can see I'm a bit concerned. regards, Ford Quote
peter Posted October 14, 2012 Author Report Posted October 14, 2012 hi Ford, are you thinking cast? it wouldnt hurt if it is, i just thought the hollyhock form on a tsuba was unusual. not sure if these are any better, Quote
Ron STL Posted October 14, 2012 Report Posted October 14, 2012 This is a Kinai design, if I'm correct. Surprised it is not signed so. Ron STL Quote
Akitombo Posted October 14, 2012 Report Posted October 14, 2012 Hi, Kinai style, it was most common with either this Aoi leaf design or dragons. David Quote
peter Posted October 14, 2012 Author Report Posted October 14, 2012 thanks Ron and David, any idea on age if any? Peter Quote
peter Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Posted October 15, 2012 hello can anything be done to revive may be to much to ask but clean it up a bit? Peter Quote
Marius Posted October 15, 2012 Report Posted October 15, 2012 peter said: hello can anything be done to revive may be to much to ask but clean it up a bit?Peter http://home.earthlink.net/~jggilbert/Cleaning.htm Quote
Lorenzo Posted October 15, 2012 Report Posted October 15, 2012 It looks cast to me. Ditto on the school; however (to me) it's not an Hollyhock, it's Wild ginger. Quote
Soshin Posted October 15, 2012 Report Posted October 15, 2012 Hi Everyone, I agree with Lorenzo on this. I think the tsuba is cast and likely artificially aged. It was cast from a Echizen Kinai school original. This my opinion and I could be wrong as the photos are poor and not very clear. Yours truly, David Stiles Quote
Ford Hallam Posted October 15, 2012 Report Posted October 15, 2012 Hi Peter, yes, while it's hard to 100% certain, especially where the images are not tack sharp, but there are a few too many tell-tale signs that make me feel it's a cast copy. Perhaps when you clean away some of that crud in the sukashi you'll be able to judge better. Those 2 round blow holes in the kozuka hitsu are not what one would see in worked steel. I get a sense that there's a trace (a bit more in some places) coarse seam running all around the inside of the openings. Also evident in the indented areas on the outside of the mimi. The thing about Kinai work is that it is generally very good chiselled work. It's crsp and tidy in execution. And while corrosion can coarsen the surface the underlying craftsmanship doesn't then melt away, if that makes sense. Here's very good example of classic Kinai work I've borrowed (nicked) from Danny Massey. A few more images of the Daisho pair on his site here. Well worth a look as they are a pretty decent pair (as the Bishop said to the actress) and at a great price. Quote
peter Posted October 15, 2012 Author Report Posted October 15, 2012 Thank you all, really nice pics of those tsuba to, what are the perameters for uploading pics to the board as ive tried with my phone and digital camera with no luck, i have been able overv time to use my camcorder but as you seen they aren't crisp enough, Peter Quote
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