hxv Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 Hi, I am looking at a naginata naoshi, possibly as a purchase. I have not made up my mind and would like to seek advice from the readership here. I don't see a turn back on the boshi, so assume that this is really a cutdown naginata. My first impression is that it is late Muromachi. Am I even close? Looks like it has had quite a few polishes in its life. From the few pictures available, can we say anything about it? What school, region, ...? Is it well forged? It's not on ebay, and the seller is not a member of this board. So, please give your advice freely. I have thick skin, plus I have not bought it, so I can take it, guys Regards, Hoanh Quote
nagamaki - Franco Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 1) what are your collecting objectives? Btw, 'like' and 'nice' are not objectives. Just imagine if a shinsa team started papering swords on based on 'like' and 'nice'. 2) setting objectives has really been made relatively easy , you have the NBTHK set standards to use as a guideline http://www.nihontocraft.com/Nihonto_Shinsa_Standards.html . 3) the then becomes does this piece meet your objectives? Does it surpass these objectives, or does it fall short? This is what is meant by "it's the sword that finds the owner," that people generally buy swords that meet their level of knowledge and understanding. Quote
Jorgensen Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 Hi Hoanh, Could you let us have the measures of the blade. To me it seems to be a cut down naginata, later koto and some part of me thinks Bizen for some reason. It seems to be of descent lenght from the pics. When looking at the boshi, it seem to have a very small turnback, just an observation. Quote
hxv Posted August 30, 2012 Author Report Posted August 30, 2012 Hi Jorgensen, The nagasa is 20". Regards, Hoanh Quote
runagmc Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 It does appear to be a naginata-naoshi, and maybe even earlier Muromachi... I'm not sure about school right now, but I don't think it looks Bizen... As far as quality, the hada is obviously rough, and not a good polish... I can't tell much more than that. Quote
runagmc Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 I see some similarities with this ko-Uda... I also have a pic of a NaminoHira that is similar. Both with Yamato/Senjuin influence, Quote
hxv Posted August 30, 2012 Author Report Posted August 30, 2012 Hi Adam, Yes, I see some similarities with your Ko-Uda, except the sword I am looking at is not nearly as nice, though. One thing I am concerned with is that the hamachi looks almost nonexistent (from the pictures anyhow). I don't know if it can take another polish (it sure needs it, though). Question: To you, is it worth the cost of a new polish + shirasaya (~$2.5K)? Regards, Hoanh Quote
Grey Doffin Posted August 30, 2012 Report Posted August 30, 2012 Hi Hoanh, The blade has a ha machi only because polishers have laid off just above the machi. If you continue the line of the ha from a few inches above the machi down, the ha machi completely disappears. The sword does look to be a bit tired in the mono uchi also. To answer your question, it is worth the expense of new polish & shira-saya only if the blade is important. If it is just stuff it won't be a smart investment. How knowledgeable is the seller? If he knows what he has chances are good it won't come out of a polish worth what you have in it. If he's uneducated, you have a chance. Grey Quote
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