Drago Posted August 16, 2012 Report Posted August 16, 2012 Well, I have to say, I'm an avid fan of Japanese anime and manga. This is what got me interested in Nihonto in the first place... :D In anime you often see very unusally shaped Tsuba e.g. very odd shapes or shapes like the crossguard on European swords. From what I know, there are two types of Tsuba commonly found on Japanese swords, either the usual disc shape (plain, with engravings, sukashi etc.) or Shitogi Tsuba. (and of course aikuchi sized preuso-tsuba usually made from horn - if you can count that as a tsuba) I'd like to know if anyone knows of genuine Tusba that do not fit the two usual types. So if you have ever seen something that you would call "unusual", please post some pictures. Thanks. Oh, btw: This is really akward for me. Is the plural form of Tusba "Tsuba" or "Tsubas" in English? Quote
docliss Posted August 16, 2012 Report Posted August 16, 2012 Dear Tobias It is normal practice not to pluralise Japanese nouns, and 'tsuba' is therefore used both for one or more examples. John L. Quote
Ruben Posted August 16, 2012 Report Posted August 16, 2012 Dear Tobias, I think it´s not possible to answear your question. It´s been said that there are about 5 million Japanese swords, so imagine how many tsuba´ s are existing! Over the time if you are interrested you will find all kinds of tsuba´s, even more "unusal" as you can ever imagine. But from the pratical view, why should someone mount some oversized, strange and impractical tsuba to his sword? Maybe if he got a realy bad taste or he is a a looser when it comes to swordfighting. But I have seen some "unusal" motives like stylized birds, friuts and many other stuff. From posting you didn´t sound uneducated... but manga is still manga. To bring somthing on paper is more easy than to create somthing "real". Greetings Ruben Quote
Thierry BERNARD Posted August 16, 2012 Report Posted August 16, 2012 no sure what you consider as unusual shape but here some tsuba from my collection Quote
george trotter Posted August 16, 2012 Report Posted August 16, 2012 I don't know it the learned will even consider this a tsuba, let alone art...but here is a a very crude cast Type 3 army tsuba of WWII. It has been "carved" (with a nail?) to show a picture of two water birds in a pond, with autumn leaves falling... Very crude, but a tender expression of home/memory by a soldier at the front....I like it. Regards, 1 Quote
Tcat Posted August 17, 2012 Report Posted August 17, 2012 Drago said: Well, I have to say, I'm an avid fan of Japanese anime and manga. This is what got me interested in Nihonto in the first place... :D Drago said: In anime you often see very unusally shaped Tsuba e.g. very odd shapes or shapes like the crossguard on European swords. Mugen? haha http://www.ioffer.com/i/samurai-champlo ... -167022139 50 bucks? actually looks like kind of a good deal. 1 Quote
Tcat Posted August 17, 2012 Report Posted August 17, 2012 Not tsuba, but heres a good one you might be interested in... The Bizen Osafune Japanese Sword Museum 'Token Village'... http://www.city.setouchi.lg.jp/~osa-token/english/access/index.htm ...just held an exhibition of contemporary interpretations of the swords from *Neongenesis Evangelion*. Pretty far out! Links below: http://ajw.asahi.com/article/cool_japan/culture/AJ201205010074 http://en.rocketnews24.com/2012/07/19/future-and-past-collide-as-long-awaited-evangelion-and-Japanese-sword-exhibit-opens/ http://www.samurai-sword-shop.com/blog/evangelion-Japanese-sword-exhibit-where-past-meets-future/nggallery/images/ Here is the 'engrish' version of the introduction to the exhibition http://www.city.setouchi.lg.jp.e.ap.hp.transer.com/~osa-token/exhibitions/index.htm 1 Quote
rkg Posted August 17, 2012 Report Posted August 17, 2012 Hi, unusual tsuba, huh? here's a couple: Apparently a theatrical tsuba: http://www.rkgphotos.com/recent_stuff/z ... a_arty.jpg and a couple of saotome/tembo "amoeba" http://www.rkgphotos.com/recent_stuff/a ... _drama.jpg all I've got is a vr image set of this one right now: http://www.rkgphotos.com/recent_stuff/s ... ctual.html Best, rkg (Richard George) Quote
christianmalterre Posted August 18, 2012 Report Posted August 18, 2012 do have an look in Robert´s book: Armes Japonaises dans les collections privees Francaises 5.Mai-25.Juin 1977 some really special ones... Unusual? Despite the price i have to pay for some good Tsuba-nothing is "Unusual" at all in fact...LOL! Christian Quote
Spartancrest Posted December 15, 2016 Report Posted December 15, 2016 Dale This is a very late post, but here are some of my Kawari-gata (irregular shaped) tsuba. 1 Quote
kissakai Posted December 15, 2016 Report Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Hi A couple of my tsuba A late tsuba but who on earth would but this on a sword? Not a very rare shape and I've seen the temple bell shape within a rim. I have seen this design before but no idea where so any links would be appreciated One of my nicest tsuba but the images do no do it justice (memo to me: I must take better pictures) Funnily enough I've only just asked a dealer to let me know if he finds any unusually shaped tsuba Edited December 15, 2016 by kissakai 2 Quote
RobertM Posted December 15, 2016 Report Posted December 15, 2016 Hi Thierry, looks like a clam shell? 1 Quote
Geraint Posted December 15, 2016 Report Posted December 15, 2016 I think he already has, that's where the image came from. Quote
Spartancrest Posted December 16, 2016 Report Posted December 16, 2016 Hi I have a Tanto sized double clam. A bit worn but well modeled. Dale Quote
Spartancrest Posted December 16, 2016 Report Posted December 16, 2016 Kissakai There is a similar "Bell" tsuba in the V&A. Maybe that is where you have seen it before? The picture I have is rather poor - Dale Quote
rkg Posted December 16, 2016 Report Posted December 16, 2016 How 'bout this? :-) Best, rkg (Richard George) Quote
Stephen Posted December 16, 2016 Report Posted December 16, 2016 Thats from the Salvador Dali school right Rich? 1 Quote
SAS Posted December 17, 2016 Report Posted December 17, 2016 I think it is from the Haight-Ashbury School! Quote
Spartancrest Posted December 17, 2016 Report Posted December 17, 2016 Found some real crazy stuff. Dale 1 Quote
Thierry BERNARD Posted December 17, 2016 Report Posted December 17, 2016 others from my collection Quote
Thierry BERNARD Posted December 17, 2016 Report Posted December 17, 2016 One made from a horse bit! Quote
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