Very large Sake barrel

[Toyokuni_62]

From:

Ger Hoogewey

Netherland The Hague

 

Can somebody translate the text on the Sake barrel

an give me an idea how old this is

 

The sake barrel has a diameter of 46 cm, the ears are 103 cm high

and the middle beam is aprox 90 cm.

 

Thanks in Advance

Ger Hoogewey

[Henry Wilson]

The kanji seems to be the name of a river and the name of a sake factory.

 

西三川内

田牟吉酒場

 

It might be located somewhere in Saga Prefecture.

 

Also, I don't think it is a barrel. It looks more like a bucket.

 

I hope this helps.

[sencho]

西三川内

 

from Nishimikawa???

 

Sado??

[Nobody]

I think that they are a place name and a bar's name.

 

As Henry said, there is a place named 西三河内 (Nishimikawachi) in Saga prefecture. The kanji on your barrel "西三川内" are a little different from that, but I think it might be another expression.

The kanji on the other side may read in a different way. I think it might read 吉牟田酒場 (Yoshimuta Sakaba - Bar Yoshimuta).

 

The barrel is gererally called Tsunodaru/Tsunotaru (角樽). Such Sake barrels are usually used as gifts on celebrations.

Ref. http://www.kitade.jp/pages/prod/taru_about.html

 

BTW, there are small kanji below "吉牟田酒場". They look 寿号 to me. There was a horse with that name in Meiji period. However, I do not know if it has any meaning or not.

[k morita]

Moriyama san,

 

The small two kanji means 壱号( #1 in English), not 寿号.

And,unrelated to a horse name. :lol:

 

  Nobody said:

BTW, there are small kanji below "吉牟田酒場". They look 寿号 to me.

There was a horse with that name in Meiji period. However, I do not know if it has any meaning or not.

When you did the wrong reading of Kanjis, you should correct your posting,like this.

[sencho]

Morita san / Moriyama san,

 

Could this be a Sado brewery/bar??

 

Yorosiku!

[Nobody]

  k morita said:

Moriyama san,

 

The small two kanji means 壱号( #1 in English), not 寿号.

And,unrelated to a horse name. :lol:

 

quote="Nobody"

BTW, there are small kanji below "吉牟田酒場". They look 寿号 to me.

There was a horse with that name in Meiji period. However, I do not know if it has any meaning or not.

/quote

 

When you did the wrong reading of Kanjis, you should correct your posting,like this.

After my mistake was corrected by someone in the same thread, I usually dare to leave my original error as it was. I think it is better to keep the flow of posts and arguments sequentially from the start to the end. That is my policy. But I do not impose it on other people.

[Nobody]

  sencho said:

Morita san / Moriyama san,

 

Could this be a Sado brewery/bar??

 

Yorosiku!

sencho san,

 

What do you mean by Sado? ... 佐渡?

[k morita]

  Nobody said:

After my mistake was corrected by someone in the same thread, I usually dare to leave my original error as it was. I think it is better to keep the flow of posts and arguments sequentially from the start to the end. That is my policy. But I do not impose it on other people.

 

Moriyama san,

In this case,if you don't correct(by line or by text) your reading of two small kanjis, peoples of the non-kanji-world can not understand which is right (壱号 or 寿号).

[Nobody]

  k morita said:

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Moriyama san,

In this case,if you don't correct(by line or by text) your reading of two small kanjis, peoples of the non-kanji-world can not understand which is right (壱号 or 寿号).

I see; if that is the case, I think your reading (壱号) is correct.

[sencho]

  Nobody said:

sencho san,

 

What do you mean by Sado? ... 佐渡?

 

Moriyama san,

 

I thought it may have connection with Nishimikawa in Sado.

[Nobody]

  sencho said:

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I thought it may have connection with Nishimikawa in Sado.

I found Nishimikawa (西三川) in Sado. I cannot say there is no connection. But I doubt there is.

[sencho]

I was reading 西三川内 as "In Nishimikawa" but maybe it doesn't make sense.

 

Nishimikawa in Sado is the only place I know with these kanji...

 

Does it make sense that someone from Saga ken would confuse or change 河 for 川 ...??