school of hizen tadayoshi

[steve69au]

Hi I just picked up a sword in WW2 mount that is signed Hizen no Kuni ju Ichimonji Hiroto im told its hiroto 1740 2nd generation school of hizen tadayoshi

it unokubi-zukuri with suguha hamon so im told

would love to know if the translation i was given is right

can anyone point me it the right direction to find out more about it

[Grey Doffin]

Translation is correct. Hawley's lists 2 generations: 1st working 1711-20, son of Hiroyuki, also signed Yoshisumi, and 2nd working 1736-43. Oshigata I have in my books show the Shodai; I have none of the Nidai. Your sword looks right.

Grey

[cabowen]

Doesn't look like unokubi zukuri to me....plain old shinogi zukuri.

[steve69au]

from my understanding it is unokubi zukuri starts 2 inches from tsuba and runs down 10 inches

added a another photo shows it better

[Jussi Ekholm]

Sesko's Index has 2nd generation working in Genbun (1736-1741), Hizen province, signed Hizen Ichimonji Fujiwara Hiroto, Hizen no Kuni Musashi no Daijo Hiroto, civilian name Hashimoto Chu'emon. He was son of the 2nd gen. Hizen Kanehiro, he died in the third year of Kanpo (1743).

 

Unfortunately I haven't got more info on the Nidai as most information seems to be of Shodai. But those with more knowledge about Hizen can hopefully help you.

[cabowen]

from my understanding it is unokubi zukuri starts 2 inches from tsuba and runs down 10 inches

added a another photo shows it better

 

 

Didn't see that in the original photos....Not shinogi-zukuri....My apologies.

[Baka Gaijin]

Morning all,

 

I'm interested in the Unokubi area, as I've seen similar with a short deep Hi in this position.

 

Was this done to facilitate better balance in the blade?

 

Cheers

[Kam]

I am very curious on what thoughts others have about this but from my perspective I am aware of this being done along with bohi and decorative horimono to disguise or remove flaws. On 2 occasions I have seen blades leave for Japan only upon return one had a Fudo myo horimono where a huge lamination was and in the other instance deep pitting was removed by method of Bohi. I am by no means suggesting that this is the case, although from a Kenjutsu point of view this type of weight reduction would make it tip heavy. In saying this I had a Wakizashi that looked very similar. . . will hunt done some pics.

 

Kam