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Thank you Jacques. You are right.After a close comparison between the two signature, it is obvious that there are some differences.

thank you very mutch Rohan... I will read this carefully.

I just found this okubetsu Juyo token ( https://www.aoijapan.com/katana-iga-no-kami-fujiwara-kanemichi-26th-nbthk-tokubetsu-juyo-token/ ) ... the signature is the same but is it the same generation ? considering the date " Momoyama Period, the late 16th century". Like often .. I'm a bot lost here ... my understanding is the Tokubetsu juyo token id the first gen and the eirakudo sword is the second gen ?

Do someone know 8(by any chance) if Iga no Kami fujiware Kinmichi is in the wazamomo list ?

Thank you Jacques and Adam ... second gen you are right. I believe it is difficult to see the jigane on this kind of photos ... and I'm afraid to see so mutch less if i really touch the sword. I believe the eirakudo have a good reputation too. But to ask here is the thing to do ... sharing experiences is the purpose

The blade looks wonderful...

Thank you Marcin, by any chance do you )or anybody have an experience with this shop ? or something you can tell about this sword ? I'm afraid I was wrong ... it was made by Iga no kami Fujiwara.. not 1701 but more likely 1670 ... and the smith is Iga no kami kinmichi. Even for papered swords ... understanding and translate is not an easy task ... I take any advices, comments or even your feelings here.

Hi, all, i just fell in love for this sword (https://eirakudo.shop/333326 )it happens to me 2 or 3 times a month ... so i believe I'm a compulsive "in love" or I spend to mutch time watching swords pictures. I think it is beautiful, but I read on this forum, the pictures from this shop is very nice and enhance the beauty of the blades ... The information a found for this sword (I could be completely wrong) -it was forged by the 2 generation Izumi no kami Kinmichi at the end of his life and signed by his son Iga no kami Kinmichi. I believe it was the last sword of Izumi -It was forged the 13 august the 14th year genroku. (1701) I'm very curious about your thought about this sword... can you give me any advices about this shop ? thanks !

I should try this thank you Jacques.

The v2 ;P

Hello, this is very criticizable, but I just asked an AI to make me a diagram to help me recognize the 5 major Japanese blacksmithing styles. I wanted to share here the result which far exceeds all my expectations. Obviously, the knowledge and expertise of the community and members of this forum are not threatened;P

Really, nothing serious here ! A kind of guessing game ... You are right about the Nakago ...that’s why i put the links to the swords after ... In this particular case, the disputed signature is not at all obvious and I wondered if, for some here, things would be different.

Thanks for your answers ... the first one on the left is the Tokubetsu the second is the "disputed" the third is the Juyo So I believe : Giordy is the winner here ! wonderful job ! I'm still wandering if the disputed could be a " real" one .. thanks again ! you can see all the pictures here : the Tokubetsu https://www.aoijapan.com/katana-hizen-koku-ju-oumi-daijo-fujiwara-tadahiro-nbthk-tokubetsu-hozon-token/ The disputed https://www.aoijapan.com/katanahizen-koku-ju-omi-daijo-fujiwara-tadahiro-not-guaranteed-nbthk-tokubetsu-kicho-token/ The Juyo https://www.aoijapan.com/katana-hizen-koku-ju-fujiwara-tadahirothe-14th-nbthk-juyo-token/

Thanks Sam !

Thanks Jean ... yep you are right "Tokubetsu" I'm sorry for the pictures ...

Hi everyone I Hope alla of you have a great summer ... or winter... I was browsing some swords and saw many from Daijo Fujiwara Tadahiro from Hizen province ... I believe many of you know his work. However, apparently some signatures of the swords are not authentic ...I compare some of them but for me it is very difficult so see the differences ... of course there is some variations in the signature but it's never exactly the same ... To illustrate my point, you will find below 3 "tangs", one is an NBTHK Juyo, the other a Tonkubetsu and finally one where the authenticity is disputed.... Is this obvious to you? Thanks for your comments

Tintin is the best ;P all the character are fabulous (including Milou the Dog) ! I didn't visit the Hergé museum in Bruxelles yet but following your recommendation, and because this "culture" is mandatory for my children... i Will ;P

Magnifique nouvelle .... merci pour le suivi de cette histoire et son "heureuse" conclusion ! Comme dirait l'inénarrable professeur Tournesol Tryphon " tout est bien qui finit bien"... bien que les services de la poste semblent bien trop a l'ouest ;P

Thanks Lewis. The article and your comments are clear.

Thanks John for the information... i didn't know about it.

Thank you Adam ..il is very interesting... Many thanks for all your answers. I'm convinced ... i need to see more blades ;P if i can i will go to Utrecht in June... I wish you a nice evening and once again a great year to all of you !

Just saw your answer Jussi, Thank you for these informations. I believe this "comparable" sword should be better in all aspects except the ... price ;P Alex, your experience and " travel" in the nohinto area, let you think what you think. And obviously you are right. We all learn in different ways...often with mistakes but most important, we lean about ourselves and what we can live with or not...I dont see nothing pedantic but simply the experience of shaping your tastes/sensitivity and knowing yourself. So my problem is i dont have your experience (this is the main reason l’m on this forum) and I dont shape my "taste". If a "perfect" objectivity exist... is it very very hopeful that we are all different ;P

Alex do you have reason to think attributions are often wrongs ? If it is the case I perfectly understand your arguments about known history. Lewis... i will not say the older the better but in a way that's what I think ;P but of course there is other factors.

Thank you for your good advices. I am not obviously convinced that I am ready to buy a sword. Claiming to have an affinity with this or that era/blacksmith would not be true. There are swords that I find beautiful and others less so... And it's not necessarily related to the price or reputation of its blacksmith. Shouldn't we have a sword in our hand to know it, appreciate it and study it? There is no real desire to own. Simply the privilege of seeing a piece of history up close and for an extended period of time and asking questions and perhaps finding answers. A piece of history that would pass through my house and that would be restored having been preciously preserved. I think, after reading several books (not always the right ones) and spending a lot of time reading and watching, that I need to touch to continue my learning curve. But maybe I should go to Utrecht ;P As a "conclusion", I would use the words from another "For me it is thinking about the romantic history behind them."

I can't explain why I like it .... It is old ...but dont look too old...I like the grain of the steel (for what I can see on pictures) , I like the fact that it has bo-hi.. the hamon look nice. I can't really explain but this sword intrigues me. I don't know if I can say I like it... I just wanted your opinions on maybe why I shouldn't like it ;P I can see it is not on the original shape and probably strongly shortened...In fact, you will undoubtedly see innumerable flaws... hence my question