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Thank you, I appreciate the help.

Thank you all for the replies. What makes you think the top middle is a gimei?

I apologize, it was upside down. Unfortunately, those are the best photos I have available at the moment.

I recently received an offer for these items, but the seller couldn’t provide any details about them. I'm hoping someone can assist in identifying the signatures and determining their dates. Additionally, what would be a reasonable price for each? Thank you for any help!

Thanks for the reply, other thoughts were that this was an umegane attempt.

Wow, thank you so much Ray!

Signature is a bit hard to see, I am hoping someone here is able to read it. Let me know if you need any other pictures.

Sugata is shinogi Zukuri, hard to capture in pictures.

It’s there but very faint, the blade is very worn, still sharp but scratched and neglected.