I agree this sword is an example of an polish gone bad. But that is no reason to critisize all souvenir swords because not all are bad blades. My opinion is this... any blade that will shave the hair off your arm after 78 years on the original polish is a bad ass blade.period.say what you want to .that will not change the facts.
John S.
The uncircled anchors were from Tenshozan tanrenjo aka Kamakura aka Japanese Naval Sword Company in Zishi for those who do not know .
John S.
P.S.but not like the example in kiipu's previous link.even though Shigemitsu was said to have worked at Tenshozan
The latest posting I would not buy the supposed Masahiro has too many issues ragged mei,incorrect fittings,too many red flags. Imo I hope to say we are not confusing issues.
This I like because I own one very much like it. The Bradford auction sword I would avoid.too late sold already
John S.
Now if you ask me would I buy it... if the price is right probably.These Takayama produced blades were alloy stainless and stay sharp for ages.they are killer blades,not nihonto,not cheap wallhangers not for the collector elite.would be great for dressing out a deer during hunting season.
First possible reason is they are illegal in Japan to this very day.Second reason is unstamped blades typically bring better money .Armory stamped usually means they were machine made in a non traditional manner or non Japanese steel. Now to answer the other question yes very likely surplus wartime made IMO.
Question for @Conway S does the nakago measure 8 7/8 inches ? The reason for asking is to establish a common characteristic .these type of swords with the flat cut tang appear to have longer originally and then cut to RJT spec length leaving 8mm+- for finishing
A common trait for end war/postwar U.S. PX bought souvenir swords.imo
John S.
The best person to ask is @Bruce Penningtonhe has put together a cool chart listing Souvenir swords and associated info. He has several Masahiro's and also Masanao's listed .whether they have stamped number or not .but I am sure several have painted numbers for sure.Can find it in the NLF topic.
In reference to this stamp I personally have not seen this one before but it looks like an entrance to a shrine "Inaba shrine" perhaps?....this shrine is located on the grounds of Gifu castle a beautiful location fyi.
John S.
Interesting symbol is the same as the first reference point ofthe 1940 navy spec drawing followed by what appears to symbols for 2 shaku could an approval stamp verifying it passed length spec ? Now that is what you call "spec."ulation. I have only seen these on Inaba blades. 😁
John S.
It reads Inaba it is a signature believed to be shared by Nakata Isamu Kanehide and his brother Matsubara Shozo the three digits are normally seen on
RJT blades ,likely the work of Kanehide but that is just my guess there are others on this forum with much more expertise.
John S.
Tenshozan tanrenjo as you know had a contract with the U.S. ARMY to buy these swords for $ 6.50each according to the documents previously mentioned in this topic as such there would be no reason to"spice them up" in order to obtain abetter price. As you also know many of these are mumei which also discredits this theory. Respectfully
John Stroud
Ok ,lets move on....hey @Bruce Pennington,I have a question about swords that have a unsharpened area of roughly 11mm in front of the habaki,was that a combat feature for blade retrieval or is that a characteristic of a Takayama blade?
For the record I do believe that it was @John Cthat made that quote which is correctin accord with army specs
In respect to differences of opinion it is perfectly acceptable to have a differrent point of view,but to call something fake after all the research and evidence contrary is considered a downright
Offence and insulting.sometimes it is not what a person says it is how it said is what makes it unacceptable and rude.
That was the R J T army spec but it is clear that in Seki that rule was not observed in every case because not all were RJT army spec. And the navy operated under a different set of rules.
Fyi Noguchi Heiichi as you probably know was a RJT smith before working at Tenshozan Tanrenjo he was born July 5th,1918 as a
smith in both locations would indeed explain the differences in the mei as seki had their cutters as well as Tenshozan. Now say what you want but back it with facts not conjecture. Respectfully John S.
Judge each blade on its individual merit. I believe that the purpose of this forum is to educate ,help and inform not to ridicule those whom you think are inferior.that helps no one so please keep it on the positive side will you. Mr.Vajo