Jcstroud
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I stand corrected ,seem to have confused Takayama Ryu with Toyama Ryu, goes to show you can not believe everything you read. I too am looking for the emoji for : dang!
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My previous post is in error Takayama to and nakago are not to be expressed in the plural. Am I bad.....oh well back to school !
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I have read that they were unadorned basicTakayamatos with plain koshirai with long nakagos in excess of 10.4 inches maybe it is a myth. But I seen some described as such.
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Since it is in line with the topic. Does anyone know what the length of a Takayama -to nakago on a Kai gunto built for Toyama naval cadets I have not seen one measured yet that was full length I estimate them to be in the area of10.5 inches but have yet to see one physically measured.only virtually estimated using photos with known specifications to estimate. Anyone?
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Poor Don C it only took 5 years for a response. From May 20th,2018 til now .....wonder if he is still around?
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It certainly has the characteristics of one and toyokawa inspector approved.but appears to have been rerouted to Tenshozan...but that is just a guess. Based on the koshirai and also a trace of green paint.
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Perhaps it is not as blunt as it seems the kissaki looks to be pushed into the material causing it to purse.wish we had better photos. But do what you can with what you got.
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According to calculations the nakago length is RS spec or242 mm very rare combo hey its a rs rs or rocking star rinji seishiki souvenir! Rare indeed considerering it was clipped. Appears if it may have been longer originally.?
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Kiipu Are you talking about the Naval Rinji Seishiki?
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Ok your turn.
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Without more photos how can you make an educated analysis?
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Really not enough to. Go on on this one. Questionable imo
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In retrospect I have my doubts about this one the mune machi appears back cut.
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Was wondering ? I think this is it.
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There was a post by Mac the whopper that had a shingunto Toyosuke in combat saya #33 if my memory is correct I will search for It.
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From this photo using a width to length ratio the calculated nakago length of 243 mm verifies this is a Takayama built rinji seishiki so they did exist! Cool. That is equal to 9.259 inches. Using the total blade length of34.75 inches-9.59 =25.16 inches or 2.1 shaku.+- John S.
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Definitely Gifu in sakura stamp.
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A good example of a Naval Rinji Seishiki with 2 mekugi ana
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Notice the same crosshatch filepattern? Interesting comparison...T y s k?
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Maybe we should ask @SteveMhis opinion on this kanji I dont know what to make of this one,seems quite different. Or @Kiipu.
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I have noticed a seeming pattern the green paint combined with the black 2 digit numbers ,combined with the 4mm circled anchor stamp with fishhook style barbs,and flat cut tangs all seem to have come from Takayama forge ,also the same swordsmith names. Perhaps these swords were collected by Tenshozan workshop As salvagable seconds that were not spec compliant.the green paint probably designated them for army px contract use.
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https://www.warrelic...-performance-715257/ Thanks to @Kiipu@Bruce Penningtonhave discovered an article of the late Nick Komiya at the War Relics site: very relative to this topic ...check it out! John S. Nlf they were.
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Hey, Bruce can you tell me the nakago length of your souvenir sword with kiri flatcut please. ?and also the takayama to in order to establish a chart for comparisons
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One theory of mine considering all that we have discovered about this type of swords is that theywere originally longer for cadet training in Toyama .reasons being the ubu ha,the longer nakago, overweight blades for the length,thicker kissaki ,conform to takayama 2nd design specs. Possible? As compared to the Bujin-to 1939 Naval Nlf specs ,aka Rikusen-to. One other possibility is they were intended to be a Naval Rinji Seishiki as their nakago length was 242mm w/ 2 mekugi ana.
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