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Hi Henry, I'm a novice so keep that in mind. From my understanding, when it comes to TSUBA, function is always over form. The material used for traditional TSUBA is always sturdy be it iron based or soft metal and both of these materials were used pre-Edo and throughout Edo. Ko (pre-Edo) TSUBA do tend to be simpler in design but that's not always the case and only one factor in guessing at the age. Many many TSUBA produced in the Edo era were inspired by TSUBA of older eras so the simplicity factor in itself is not a good tell to rely on for dating. The actual design carved (SUKASHI) into your TSUBA can be used to date it as well. Even the thickness of the plate is a tell. A person more knowledgeable than me or an expert would take all factors into account to determine/guess its age. My own observation is that the plate is flat and thick which gives me an Edo vibe.
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Beautiful stabilization/restoration work!
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I have noticed this same thing and also thought there were other moderators albeit not as involved as @Brian.
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Admittedly, I am very new to collecting TOSOGU but I am firmly in the forged camp of this OP TSUBA. What stands out to me is the inside surfaces. They appear to be very smooth and lack the pitting/texture, which I also feel could be purposeful texture if not produced by corrosion and subsequent stabilization and re-patination. I'm remembering another thread from around a year ago where @Ford Hallam had chimed in after I myself had thought a TSUBA was cast because of lack of detail and an overall pitted appearance. He stated that many surface textures were purposeful and pointed out other reasons for believing that particular TSUBA was forged in his opinion. It was a forum lesson I will not soon forget! Anyways, the point I'm trying to make is: wouldn't casting texture/pitting be uniform on all surfaces? The other thing that stands out to me are the crisp 90% angles of the edges. Most examples of cast TSUBA (of the iron-based variety) I have seen on the forum don't have these uniform and predominant sharp edges. What I get from the combination of these two things is that it was forged and chased/carved. Obviously, I could be wrong about these observations and I'm open to learn like most people on this great forum.
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If I had extra money for it, I would buy it in a heartbeat. I really like that one.
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Jacob, if you are confident of its origin and won't take any other opinions, why are you on this forum asking questions? We've all seen this attitude before. All the hallmarks of a troll.
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Geraint, hahaha. Oops! I saw the red color of the 16" mark and immediately thought that was the 12" mark... Duh. I guess the seemingly short TSUKA added to the optical illusion. That's a tad embarrassing. Yes, totally KATANA.
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Hi Thomas, Without being able to see a whole lot of detail in your photographs, what I do see tells me it's a real antique NIHONTO. It is a WAKIZASHI (short sword). The TSUKA (handle) has quite a bit of age to it. edit: This is a KATANA. I completely misread the tape measure. I am a total novice so I can't speak much more than that. You will surely get more replies from seasoned members. They will want some other photographs. At least one with the TSUKA and HABAKI (blade collar) removed and then photographed with the tip of the sword up in as good as light as possible. And if you can get any detailed/focused images of the edge that would be helpful as well. There will be a pin (MEKUGI) going through the handle, and typically visible on both sides. Remove that with a widdled down chopstick or something else of similar diameter and not hard as to do any damage. Be careful not to cut yourself. Japanese swords stay sharp for a very long time. What we really need to see is the NAKAGO (naked blade handle). The patina and style of that will possibly give us a better hint of age and school. Best, Jeremy
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In line with the above comments, I also observe that the TSUKA (handle) wrapping is not up to par with a traditional NIHONTO. Not solid proof but more evidence.
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I do see all four appendages present on the left-hand dragon, but that one almost hidden appendage only has two claws instead of three which throws off the image. I agree that the curves overall are more angular and not as flowing and natural as the one on the right. Also, the curvature of the front section of the body flows into the rear leg instead of the body and is askew from the rear part of the body. This shows a lack of planning. While the dragon on the right does have spines, they aren't very uniform and proportionate to where they are located on the dragon, giving it a sort of sloppy appearance even though it as meant as a detail. Finally, I observe that the snout and lower jaw are better executed on the right-hand dragon in that the snout is longer than the lower jaw and more visible than the left-hand dragon. The lower jaw is longer than the snout on the left-hand dragon and the snout is hardly visible. With the head being a major part of the awesomeness of a dragon, the execution of the tiny and misshaped head on the left-hand dragon leaves me dissatisfied and gives me the impression again of bad planning.
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I second Steve's recommendation of Nikko. It's an absolutely beautiful place and you can use that as a base for a day trip to Nikko National Park if you want a break from the hustle and bustle. It's serene and picturesque. I don't know how common it is throughout the year but I was there in late December and saw snow monkeys hanging out in hot springs on my bus ride to the park. I also agree that Kyoto is a great base camp for visiting nearby attractions like Himeji and Nara.
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Hi Dan. Boy, I’m glad you said something! Honestly, I had no idea about the corrosive effect that oak has on iron. I did a little research after reading your question and now I’ve learned something new. Thank you for saving me (or rather my TSUBA) from my ignorance! I don’t plan on finishing the wood but, in light of your eduction, I will add felt washers (or some other material) as a backing on all the pegs so that the TSUBA never actually touch the oak. The dowels are poplar which doesn’t seem to be reactive to iron from what I’ve read, so far. Please let me know if that is wrong. Thank you, good sir! Best, Jeremy
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Thanks, Dale! Hadn't seen this design at all before. I thought they might be crows and thank you for the confirmation. I do like my corvids. Sorry, folks. Back to our regular scheduled programming.
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Thanks, Dale! I’ve been meaning to post that one actually (not to hijack my own thread). It’s an interesting piece. And now I know they are crows! The TSUBA is magnetic but its finish is unusual compared to all my other ‘iron’ pieces. The finish is very smooth like polished stone. The inside of the NAKAGO-ANA makes me think it might be sandwiched? Here are some better photos for you.
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Update: I finished the new one. Nice piece of oak with dynamic grain. Don’t worry, this is not where it will be installed. It’s just the cleanest backdrop I have at the moment for taking photos.
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Yeah, the ranking system is not meant to display how proficient we are at NIHONTO, as Brian has defended many times. The rankings are a reflection of how much you post and react and log on to the site. Maybe a different system would be better but that's a different conversation. I've been on here since November of 2022. I am most certainly NOT a "Veteran" in the world of NIHONTO but I've strived to learn a lot in the 14 months that I've been here. That said, nobody has to read or respond to Sword's posts if they don't want to. If they didn't, the posts would not get momentum. It's that simple. I believe the negativity expressed towards Swords is more detrimental to NMB than the questions he asks. You don't like him or his questions? Ignore him and ignore his posts.
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US Army Infantry Collection Sword Identification
rematron replied to chgruener's topic in General Nihonto Related Discussion
My novice eyes see a NAGINATA turned into a WAKIZASHI. Not uncommon. What looks odd to me is the size of the TSUKA compared to the blade. It looks a little 'thrown together'. Another oddity is that the FUCHI appears to be on top of the TSUBA rather than underneath. Is that tape around the HABAKI? -
I search on Jauce (because it's easier than Buyee) and then I use Buyee for purchasing (because it's easier than Jauce). I just copy and paste the item # from Jauce into Buyee.
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Hi, Soren! HAHA! Thanks for the good advice! Luckily my wife enjoys appreciating the aesthetic and craftmanship of tosogu, so my only real problem is actual wall space in a tiny house. This weekend I'm making a different one out of an oak board 1"x4"x7'5" that will put my collection in a single line from ceiling to floor. It will go right next to my my side of the bed where I can stare at them with ease. The pine one I made above will be re-purposed as some other display or utilitarian rack. Turns out it was my practice run.
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There are plenty of examples of 'Dragon Fish' posted in the above referenced thread that do not have wings, so it seems like a valid question to me. Is this (below and borrowed from the referenced thread) a salmon? It has a similar nose as the OP. I believe the central jewel depicted in the OP fuchi kashira might also be a hint that it's a shachi because of its inclusion. Not sure why there would be a jewel associated with salmon but I'm a beginner and might not have been exposed to that yet.
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Yesterday we had a little impromptu project day at my brother-in-law’s workshop. Inspired by the other projects, I decided to take advantage of the space and tools and make a display board for my tsuba (or my 14 favorite because that’s the size of the piece of wood I decided to work with). I used 3/16” dowel drilled at 10 degrees. Now I just need to figure out where to hang it.
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I’m sorry, nulldevice. I believe your observation is valid but I can’t speak intelligently to why it is listed as it is. I can, however, say that I’ve purchased from this seller before and he is straightforward and knowledgeable. Either his listing is for very good reason or it’s a simple mistake. Either way, I’m certain he would respond quickly and honestly to a query addressed to him directly.
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He's a knowledgeable and respected seller.
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Piers, thanks for showing in detail how these work. And of course it's a great functional design. I'm very impressed by your patience with such a tedious and delicate project. God speed!