John C

@Bruce Pennington @Kiipu You guys might find this interesting. Through a discussion with a dealer, I commented on showato getting torokusho. I was told that this dealer was commisioned to gather swords to be sent to Japan for resale. The Japanese dealer had several shops and would ask the swords be sent to his Osaka location and not his Tokyo location because the regulations were less strict (or at least less enforced) in Osaka and getting a torokusho for gunto was easier. I bring this up because I was thinking about...gulp...doing some research on registered gunto by location and frequency - unless you guys have done that already. John C.

Hello: I'm trying to figure out the Tadatoki generation for an Akasaka tsuba signed Bushu ju Hilojuro Tadatoki. Does anyone know if a list of Tadatoki oshigata exists? I believe there were at least 9 generations of masters plus students etc. Thank you, John C.

@Bruce Pennington From the auction posted above: I know you have Masahide's kokuin listed in the stamps doc, however this may be a slightly clearer pic. John C.

I don't think it matches Mori Kunitoshi. Couldn't find an oshigata for Enju. John C.

Just for fun, here is an advertisement from a 1914 magazine showing your sword (number 6, I believe). John C.

Thomas - regardless of the type of steel or if power equipment were used? If so, I could see how focusing on the process rather than the materials or equipment could be be argued as traditional. John C.

The sword came with tons of paperwork, including a torokusho. I was under the impression torokusho could not be issued for non-traditionally made swords. Was this an early exception? John C.

Thanks, Jussi. I'm a bit of a stats guy myself so I too eagerly jump into the data rabbit hole myself! In all seriousness, have you thought about compiling tables into a book on the various smiths and their rankings according to the NBTHK? John C.

I have not seen this kind of wrap before (not saying it doesn't happen, I just haven't seen it). I don't think the wrapping methods have changed. The nihonto world tends to resist modern materials and methods in order to preserve tradition. As to the paper, you are correct in that washi is glued to the top and bottom of the tsuka prior to wrapping. This allows the area to be built up to achieve the proper shape when the same (ray skin) is glued to the sides. During wrapping, small traingular folded pieces of paper are tucked under each side of the turned ito to tuck the edges under neath and smooth out the look. All of this (and the placement of the menuki) creates the proper shape so the tsuka fits comfortably in the hand. There should be plenty of videos on youtube, and even a link to a good one on NMB somewhere. John C.

That would be interesting to see. Two weeks prior to the actual start date. Might be a pre-flight or test of the program. John C.

Just for context, here's one of mine from November 4, Showa 27 (about 1.5 years after the OP) and we are already up to 7,775. Question: Did each Board of Education or Prefecture have it's own series of numbers? John C.

Luke: In general, cotton, silk, and burlap were used commonly on swords. Have you ruled out asbestos? Just being cautious. Mulberry and washi paper were also used, if that helps. John C.

Just based off of the difference between the first edition and this info on the title page, is seems Cillo may have taken over as publisher. This could also happen if Cillo owned the rights to the ISBN (i.e., the ISBN was purchased through the publisher and not purchased by the author). John C.

Sounds like classic sales tactic - selling the emotion and not the product. John C.

May have been legit at one time, however the removal of the tsuba and alteration of the tsuka to slide it down has really shredded it. Then they added brass fuchi? Used to be real then altered to a worthless state, IMHO. John C.

Lukrez: Before I generate an opinion, not that mine matters, I just find this topic interesting, to which language are you referring? In other words, are words like masculinity being translated from Japanese into another language or are these words used by the Japanese when describing swords? John C.

For anyone that doesn't have the F&G Military Swords of Japan and just needs to look something up, it's on Internet Archive here: https://archive.org/details/militaryswordsof0000full/mode/2up John C.

Darn......guess I'll retract my bid. John C.

Hello: You could have it polished, however some of those chips are fairly deep. Honestly, with the price of a polish and the amount of damage on the blade, I would just hang it back on the wall and revel in the history of it. Maybe clean the handle with a soft brush. John C.

Very nice collection - all with the same purpose I believe. The first example in the pic would be a bokuto or chato, however given the context of the others I would guess bokuto. The second and third items are "clubs" in the form of a fan and extra heavy kiseru. At one point, the extra heavy kiseru were becoming prevalent as weapons so they were banned. Instead, folks would carry large and heavy yatate as a substitute. John C.

I like Dawson's because it is well rounded with examples of both high-end and pedestrian examples. I think Plimpton's collection was mostly high-end, though he does have some rare stuff. John C.

I tend to agree. I've seen many "crossover" pieces, especially the ornate ones, that could go either way. I suspect their intended purpose defines their label. In the case above, the signer actually used the term bokuto, however in most cases we can't be sure. Daruma magazine issue 7 has a short but informative article on them if you can find a copy. John C.

Wow, Hiro. Showing the hiragana and kanji next to their script form is really helpful. Thank you! John C.

Most literature refers to doctor's swords as bokuto. I suspect some may be chato, however. But the poem, once translated, may give us a better clue. What's interesting about this particular piece is what appears to be an African or Islander figure holding a scythe. Not very typical. John C. p.s. the name Doctor's Sword is actually somewhat of a myth. It's often said that they came about because doctors could not carry swords, however this is not true.

Is the maker Masanao? Bokuto are always on my wish list John C.