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My first Nihonto is one I inherited very young. The first Nihonto I purchased for myself was one I found at a gun show. Ended up being a good sword. Now it’s going through the long process of getting a new habaki, shirasaya, and hopefully polish and papers. Here are a couple of the photos I took when I first found it. I’ve learned a lot since then! Cheers, -Sam

Here's something more definitive. The copper tsuka pattern 1 Type95s had alternating ito knots at the fuchi like a traditional wrap; wheras this version has mirrored ito at the fuchi. The mirrored ito at the fuchi was later adopted for the aluminum pattern 2 tsuka. So this Tsuka certainly never belonged to an earlier blade, and I suspect a scam or a fake. I struggled to articulate this. Hope it makes sense. -Sam First two photos from facebook listing. Last photo with red circles around the fuchi and ito knot transition.

Thank goodness! I was fearing the worst. Hopefully he sees the visit from the police as confirmation that he’s got friends who care about him. Much appreciated for the update. -Sam

@paul griff Good eye! These DO look like two different tsuka. One being copper that has a mekugi added (not unheard of); and the other being one of the fake brass examples. (or both fake?) Some of the fake brass tsuka examples in particular have pretty convincing #s and stamps. Too many red flags. When I get home today I’ll compare to my archive and see if I have this one recorded. Cheers, -Sam Edit: new to my list, but I have several brass tsuka fakes listed in the ~13k’s. Tough call, and if a scam, a convincing one.

Hi @nihon I am familiar with this seller. He frequently sells very affordable items around the Facebook sword groups. His write ups and photos are thorough; so I recommend you study the pictures and his descriptions carefully. He has little patience for going back and forth with questions on items at these prices, and puts a lot of effort into covering his bases with photographs and descriptions. I’ve bought from him before. He’s honest and puts more effort into his listings than some would bother in this price bracket. He sometimes has great and affordable items, but you get what you pay for. -Sam

It’s my understanding that Brian has made decisions, and is working on it. The dustup with the site themes yesterday, might have taken priority. I don’t want to speak for Brian, but I expect to hear from him soon about the mods. Stay tuned! Cheers, -Sam

Jean has communicated with us here, in private message Still concerned about Dale though.

Woops, I forgot you’re in the UK. That complicates things, and I don’t blame you one bit. Based on your descriptions, and without diving into each individual smith, I think your 1-5 list sounds reasonable. You can always try the wanted to buy section too. You never know what’s out there! All the best, -Sam

Hi George, There is a wartime list that ranks swordsmiths; although condition, length, originality and other factors are also big market drivers. https://www.japaneseswordindex.com/tosho.htm Ray Singer recently had a nice probably Koto, Mumei mino blade in gunto mounts that might still be available if you message him. Nice length and active hamon. Otherwise your question is tough to answer, as so much comes down to personal preference. Personally I’d pick anything traditionally made first. If you want a showato, I’d maybe picked one made by a ranked smith for the paper trail. When I shop for swords, usually one will “speak to me”, so to say. So my advice is to keep looking until you feel that spark. Best of luck! I wish I were shopping for a sword right now -Sam

These fire service swords are pretty cool. A few different ones are featured in Jim Dawsons book “Swords of Imperial Japan 1868-1945 Cyclopedia edition”. I highly recommend the book if you’re interested in military swords of Japan. The author sells them direct via eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/116475828833?_skw=sword+of+imperial+Japan+1868-1945 One of the swords pictured in the book is the same style as yours (pg. 328). Dawson describes it as a “"D" guard fire service sword with folding tobiguchi hook in the scabbard tip”. He notes that of the three he observed from the Fuller collection, two had army company grade kyugunto backstraps, and one had a lieutenant level police backstrap. I’ve never seen one myself. Pretty cool! -Sam

@Dan tsuba I'm concerned too. Here is a link to the thread in the Izakaya section about it. There's some more recent updates there, but still no word from Dale.

Hypothetically, in a modern scenario; if you were to commission a shirasaya for your Naginata, then you could also request the craftsman make a tsunagi for the koshirae. Shirasaya makers often make tsunagi for the corresponding koshirae, so I see no reason why a yari or naginata would be any different - if that's what you want, and have the funds. Cheers, -Sam

Also, I wouldn't worry about the tsuba. Different arsenals adopted the iron tsuba at different times. Your example, with those stamps and #s, is within the pattern2 range like I would expect to see

Thank you for sharing. Its a nice looking example! I always liked the 95s that have that distinct YAKOTE

I will send you a message with the flyer and information for the show. It was rescheduled from February during our “snow” day . So much of the info online wasn’t correctly updated Let me know if you make it! All the best, -Sam

Stunning collection there! Ive grown to really like the rain dragon motif. Thank you @Mark S., I’m going to reach out to them for some advice. Looks like a good group! I’m thinking I’ll have to look into website creation too. Thanks for the encouragement guys! Cheers, -Sam

I am attempting to start a small club for Japanese sword appreciation in the Pacific Northwestern states. I hope to include Oregon, Washington, and Idaho. To my knowledge, there are no clubs or groups out here that do any in-person meetings or discussions. I would like to change that if I can get enough willing participants. Looking for input from members who may have started their own clubs - or are members of regional clubs already that may have advice. I understand the Northern California Club is well established, and I would encourage all PNW members to join their membership, for all their awesome resources and especially the Zoom meetings. @Toryu2020. I need to start attending those myself. The goal is to create a FREE local regional resource for Japanese sword collectors to network, meet, discuss, and share their swords or collections in person. Oregon/Washington/Idaho are pretty small, and even a yearly meet and greet would be better than nothing. Working on creating a private facebook group for the club. I tired this about a year ago, but never followed through. Thoughts? Am I wasting my time ? -Sam (I thought 'rain dragons' would be a good name. Considering how much it rains out here )'

The 関 is a SEKI stamp. Which is an inspection mark found on some WW2 swords. It indicates that the sword was not made with traditional methods Cheers, -Sam

Hi Riley, welcome to the forum! The "Pommel Cap" is what we refer to as the "Kashira". Lacquer covered fittings are not unheard of. Even finding fittings that have received a modern and amateur paint-job is not uncommon. I am not knowledgeable when it comes to sword fittings, so I am hoping one of our more experience members chimes in on the Lacquer covered fittings questions. All I can say is, that i've seen similar things before. Here's a photo, and a link, with some common sword terminology that hopefully helps your searches. https://nihonto.com/...iagrams-terminology/ I am also in Oregon. If you are interested, I'd be happy to look at your sword and offer my non-expert/collector opinion and provide advice. There is a Militaria Sale/show on March 22nd near the Portland airport. If you are interested, I will be there, and feel free to send me a message. Not many Nihonto collectors out here in Oregon. Cheers, -Sam

I think all of Bruce's suggestions are great ones. My biggest reservation is my relative experience and knowledge compared to those on that list! @nulldevice has learned a lot really fast, and is savvy. @Jussi Ekholm has collected invaluable data for us, and is clearly working altruistically for the betterment of the hobby. Both seem very level headed, with good eyes and intentions. I'd add them for consideration. I have no idea if either would be willing or interested. Colin would have been my #1 choice! But I totally understand his reasons. I would be open to helping cover any section assigned, or even generally all sections if asked. I spend a lot of time on the forum and could expand the topics I look into. I agree wholeheartedly with @Stephen, that a group effort in reporting suspicious activity will benefit both Brian, mods and everyone. And always, when in doubt I'd defer to Brian. Cheers, -Sam

I’m flattered to be considered. I have always respected the way Brian runs things here, and if chosen I would do my best to moderate the way he does. I am sorry to hear about your health Brian, and I’ve always been impressed that you’ve been doing much of the moderating on your own for so long. Whoever you choose to help out, I trust in your judgement. -Sam

I don’t mind much as that one is just there to look the part. It’s on a sword I’ll keep forever and maybe someday will switch out the tassel. My other one, with the collar, I’d say is in “relic” condition and I don’t think is salvageable beyond leaving as-is. I’ll PM you about it

Here’s the information screenshotted from that thread. Followed by both my examples. My knot with what appears to be the tightly wound and glued end has the collar (orange background). My knot with what appears to be the punched out end does not (green background). It’s really a tragedy that Nick Komiya is no longer with us. He continues to teach me much, even if it takes me a while to absorb the vastness of it. Cheers, -Sam

I have also not focused on these. But I’ve read a little bit on them, and there was a style change. The earlier versions of the knot had the leather tightly wound in the end, and it was time consuming. If I am interpreting the following thread correctly, the later version of the knot had the end filled with a punched out stacked leather plug, which was a faster method. Read carefully below for your own interpretation as I often question my own : https://www.warrelic...uction-1930s-788442/ So there were changes. Also there’s the versions with buckles on the strap, and the versions without. I have not handled enough examples, or read enough about them, to know about the “collar” feature at the source of your question. I will say, I have one with, and one without that feature... I believe both my knots are genuine, but I cannot be certain. One has what I believe to be a replacement strap. All I can say is that, If either of those are repro’s in your original post, they are good looking one’s

Nice examples guys. I'm enjoying reading along, and it's really incredible how affordable some of these sabers can be. Not to derail anything - but just something I can add. I once purchased what I thought was a parade saber, that had a black horn mekugi, company grade backstrap, and a button lock for the saya. I cannot remember if it had one or two hangers. The nakago was mumei and had a Seki Stamp above the ana. I wish I had taken photos... I ended up trading it at the same event that I purchased it at - for a nihonto wakizashi with green ito in civ gunto mounts. Wish I still had that one, because now it's lost to time . Cheers, -Sam