Thanks for your help on helping me identify my sword. I worked and finally removed the handle off, and to get a picture of the sword maker, and post. The swordmaker mark is 13!!! Boy, did I screw up today, and I hate to say how much I paid. I will be feeling it for a while. I should have known, something was not right, the auction had, a can full of german medals, with a Knights Cross in it, and I know enough about german items, to see they were fake. The fellow was a part time gunsmith and I did hear he traveled to different shows, while I was standing around at the sale. I, got caught up in the excitment, of the auction, and remembered all the stories, I have heard about the value of rare Japanese swords over the years. Rule number 1 .... Stick with what you are familiar with, and watch out for auction fever. If this sword had been at a fea market, or gun show, I would never had bought, but the country auction, out of the closet, got me. Thanks for your imput Bob