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Chris said 素晴らしい！　ありがとう、森田さん。。。 Ditto

Good morning Jorgensen Jimi - san., This should help you understand how papers are structured: http://www.nihontocraft.com/japanese_sword_papers.html Most other Kanji you require will be here: http://www.jssus.org/nkp/index.html If you get stuck, ask again. Cheers

Good evening Robert, I looked and thought Ando also. I'd heard the blocks of Ando were recut in 1900, so I thought, recut printed on Chirimen....Tourist and Export market. But the signature was wrong, that made me go to the 2 versions of San Ju Roku, and search through them. Then the hunt was afoot. I've learned a great deal today from this. Including how Ando was in charge of a Fire fighting unit as part of his Samurai duties. Thank you

Hi Grev., This may help: Treasures of the San Diego: Exhibition at the Philippine Consulate New York from November 1, 1996 to February 28, 1997 Desroches, Jean-Paul & Casal, Fr. Gabriel & Goddio, Franck, 380 pp., profusely illustrated in color, bibliography, list of illustrations, paper, New York, 1996 Le San Diego: Un Tresor Sous La Mer. Dominique Carre. Reunion des Musees Nationaux. Paris. 1994. ISBN 2-7118-3135-3. http://www.franckgoddio.org/projects/an ... diego.html http://www.ieasm.org/ships.php?lang=fr& ... hip_type=G http://www.shibuiswords.com/sandiego.htm Here's a thread I opened on NMB back in 2011: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7078&view=previous Cheers

Good morning all, Only just spotted this thread, Peter & Robert, I believe the print is not by Ando Hiroshige but by Utagawa Hiroshige IV. It is known as Twilight Hill at Meguro in the Eastern Capital. From the series Thirty-six Views of Mt. Fuji The print series is believed to have been originally produced early 20th Century, certainly after 1911. In this case on crepe paper known as Chirimen-gami-e. (Which suggests export or Tourists item). For those who fancy a bit of Sunday morning Soap Opera: The line of Hiroshige which is considered by some to be dubious and filled with sometimes bitter intrigues runs: Jūemon Tokutarō known as Hiroshige "Ando" and Utagawa Hiroshige I - 1797 -1858 Suzuki Chimpei known as Hiroshige "Shigenobu" and Utagawa Hiroshige II Given the "Gō" Official Art Name by Hiroshige I, on the celebration of marriage to Hiroshige I's daughter Otatsu whom he later divorced. Signed later as Ryūshō. Ended up painting lanterns to survive. died 1869 Gotō Torakichi known as Hiroshige "Shigemasa" as Utagawa Hiroshige III also married Otatsu and also used the name Hiroshige II and Andō Tokubei for a while, then used Hiroshige III died 1894. Kikuchi Kiichiro later Ryusho II known as Utagawa Hiroshige IV took the name in 1911 I get the feeling he was essentially a pastiche Artist working in a style similar to the preceding three (Can't find other dates for him). Bestowing of the Gō was the official sanction that you and your work was worthy of the name. A bit like product endorsement...... Cartier not Kartier, Rolex not Roleks Sources: http://ukiyo-e.org/image/chazen/1980_2303 http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=p2Qn ... IV&f=false http://www.hiroshige.org.uk/hiroshige/w ... e_eras.htm http://viewingjapaneseprints.net/texts/ ... rimen.html Cheers

Good afternoon Robert., Is it a full wrap same or is there a join line on the omote side? If it's a full wrap, it suggests that someone cared that the tsuka would be strong The thickness of the tsuba reminds me of the type used in Maniwa Nen Ryu: http://blog.goo.ne.jp/isyota/e/9b8907ff ... 8108a01e87 https://www.flickr.com/photos/oroshi/8958080504/ I have never seen a Koshirae like this before, perhaps one of our senior members has. Cheers

Good morning all., Thank you Robert, for posting more images of the Koshirae, it really is an interesting item. The absence of a Kurikata does not mean it could not be worn in a training environment. The tightness of the Obi and Hakama Himo determine whether a saya slips or not, the Kurikata has very little to do with it. The saya wrap looks like a split grass or some vegetable fibre which has been bound very tightly around the saya and laquered. Ages ago Tsuruta san had a sword in his Iai section which had similar wrap over Kojiri and Kashira, as I recall he described the Koshirae as late Edo, specifically for Iai training. The Koshirae looks like it was meant for some serious useage. Again thank you for posting the extra images. Cheers

Morning all, The question arises in my mind, is it from indigenous Japanese species, or an exotic import? Burmese Blackwood, Dalbergia Cultrata which is variously known as Khamphi Rosewood, Laos Rosewood looks close to it http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-ide ... blackwood/ Here's the complete database for reference: http://www.wood-database.com/ Brownheart, Wacapou, Vouacapoua americana was another thought, but that's from South America Cheers

Good morning Thomas., My feeling is that this is a really rare example of a practical training Koshirae. I was first thinking something like Tennen Rishin Ryu or full on Jigen Ryu. I noticed particularly the ferrule reinforcement at the area from Kurikata to Koiguchi. Then because of the leather padding on a wooden tsuba, I wondered if it was primarily a receiving sword. The striking sword being a Bokuto. Which kind of shoots my Jigen Ryu theory down as the concept of blocking is anathema. Perhaps one of the Itto ryu variations? Hokushin Itto Ryu could be a contender as that was known from Aizu and Northwards. Could it have been owned by one of the Shinsengumi Bad Boys gone North? The last statement was a shameless attempt at obtaining a Manga/Anime Otaku 101 credit..... Back to rationality, we know from the writings of Tesshu Yamaoka, Uyeshiba Morihei and Takeda Sokaku that specialised training weapons such as extra heavy Bokuto for Tanren training or Iron bars for So-Jutsu were used: I'd like to see more pictures of the entire Koshirae. Cheers

Morning all., The edge is dull and the tsuba is padded leather. (Is the term for a completely dull edge Habiki?) Might this have been used for Gekken (Severe Sword - I think) training? Bearing in mind the period and the warriors who also went North. Hokkaido, a generation later being akin to the Wild West, the birthplace of the early manifestation of both the fledgling Aiki Jutsu (later Do) under Uyeshiba Morihei and the allegedly pre existing Daito Ryu forms of Takeda Sokaku. Just a thought. Malcolm

Hi Dan C & John., Cannon were cast in Bakumatsu period Edo at Itabashi, near Akabane : http://www.city.itabashi.tokyo.jp/c_kur ... 34964.html Here's a close up of the Blast Furnaces: http://www.city.itabashi.tokyo.jp/c_kur ... 1.jpg.html Cheers

Thank you John & Jussi for taking the time to answer, most thought provoking. Although a work of fiction, The Twighlight Samurai - Tasogare Seibei evokes a period where many of the Samurai were in dire financial circumstances. Markus wrote an excellent breakdown of sword prices and the stipend system: http://www.nihontomessageboard.com/arti ... amurai.pdf So, how did the lowest guys on the totem pole care for their blades? Are we perhaps seeing a simple Mingei artifact which may have be given another name and attributed another usage today? One for the Flea Markets perhaps............ Cheers

Good evening all., Certainly a lively and respectful debate, my thanks to everyone who has thus far contributed, but if I might pause a moment and restate the original question: What was the polishing really like in Sengoku and Edo periods? Was a polisher really a sharpener? Cheers

Thanks for the input Piers, Welcome to U.K.

Forming an orderly queue, according to rank, Jean Perhaps Zohyo Monogatari once had pages concerned with this http://dl.ndl.go.jp/info:ndljp/pid/2541624 Cheers

Good morning all, Hi Henk Jan and Chris, thank you for your comments. However, the walls that I was told about were the Musha Gaeshi 武者返し the type the lower areas of castles were constructed from. The story I was told was that before an assault the canon fodder would often sharpen their edges against appropriate stones in the walls. Appropriate I guess being something like Binsui, Kaise or Chu Nagura ? Somewhere on You tube there is a Japanese TV programme with a priest showing a grave marker of a warrior and then showing a yellow coloured stone with various pock marks where he says yari were sharpened and long channels at the corners where he says swords were sharpened. I'm trying to find it. Maybe whetted is a more appropriate term. Cheers

Thank you John., Allow me to ask the original question: What was the polishing really like in Sengoku and Edo periods? Was a polisher really a sharpener? Cheers

Thank you Darcy

Hi Trent S I deal in really fugitive objects, textiles and works on paper. UV light is the culprit here. The Western approach is to put the item in an acid free environment within a closed box. Acid free paper etc.... Study in subdued light. The Japanese traditional approach is similar. Put the item in a box contained in a Tansu or Kura and only bring it out when you wish to study it. Add no substance or finish that will cause grief later on. Cheers

Good morning all, Here's a seemingly dumb question. What was the polishing really like in Sengoku and Edo periods? Was a polisher really a sharpener? I've heard tales of stone lanterns and particular sections of a wall which have gouges and lines where Yari and Katana were supposedly sharpened by warriors prior to battle. Is this true or Fantasy Island? Admittedly these tales are usually fueled by elegant cups Sake or chilled cans what certain denizens charmingly refer to in the U.K. as "Wife Beater". Cheers

Morning all, The Kanji for the Heart Sutra seems quite well formed and balanced. Could this have been a form of Omamori 御守 (Talisman) over which a leather combat cover would have been fitted? Cheers

I have had three of these Tourist pieces, the carving on the Tsuka is always identical. They usually have a wooden tsuba, and I had one with a wooden Habaki. (Most go missing it seems). They must have been centrally made because the stepped nakagojiri is common. I had one with Hachiman Daibosatsu roughly engraved on both flats of the blade (Is that the correct term?) The steel is quite soft. Cheers

Good afternoon all, I have my doubts about its reality as a weapon during Sengoku Jidai (or any other period for that matter). I was told once they were feudal can openers for armour........ The koshirae looks like a working on Ebi zukuri. A long time ago I saw a similar Koshirae in a Temple devoted to Hachiman Taro Yoshiie. (I recall it being described as Koshigatana, but that was a long time ago and a galaxy far far away...........). Cheers

Morning all I suggest that something's amiss with the tsuka... Cheers

Hi Chris, This may help: http://ohmura-study.net/906.html I do wonder of the origin and age of your pierced example. Cheers