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Attention Mantetsu Owners: A Survey
Kiipu replied to Bruce Pennington's topic in Military Swords of Japan
Cross reference to the other reported 鷹信焠之. Mantetsu with attribution Attention Mantetsu Owners: A Survey (post #527) -
That could very well be the case and it is one of two possible outcomes. The other scenario goes down this road. The owner stated a "44 pattern tang" which infers a Type 100 blade. These blades were introduced in 1940. If this is the case, then there was an omission of one of the year numerals following the 十. I just recently ran across this type of omission on a Kanemasa blade. You can see it at the post below. Murata Swords 村田刀 Hopefully, the blade will resurface down the road with better pictures of the nakago; but until then, the enigma continues.
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As IJASwords already hinted at, I think this could be a 1945 made Mantetsu. Does the blade have any markings on the top of the tang by the habaki?
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It is a term that does not show up in the technical dictionaries. Slough uses "shin-gane iri" in his book. Whatever term you decide to use, just be sure to include the kanji characters.
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I have run across several pronunciations for the 眞金入 stamp. The character 眞 can also be written as 真. The various pronunciations and discussions about them can be found at the links below. 2010 ma kane hisa or shin gane iru = Arsenal Stamps. Post #76. 2011 magane iri = Help with translations. Please! 2013 shin-gane iri = Masafusa 2015 shin-gane iri = Arsenal Stamps. Post #235.
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Nakago Mune: 名 ホ. Nakago Reverse: 紀元二千六百一年十一月 = November 1941. Nakago Obverse: 筑後住武藤幸廣
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Due to a recent post, I decided to followup on that 1935 blade. It is a bit of a long shot as the post is old but worth the effort none the less. https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/32732-stamp-survey/?do=findComment&comment=354106 I was going to post this in another thread about kabutogane markings; but, I simply can not find it. Opinions of WW2 type 98 officers sword please!!!
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This sword is a bit of an mystery. It has a peacetime date of 1935 but has wartime inspection marks along with late war fittings. The post is old but in the off chance the owner or sword is still around, can a picture of the entire length of either side of the nakago be provided. Just recently, a second early sword dated 1941, has surfaced over at the Stamp Survey thread that has similar nakago mune markings. Nakago Mune 小 ホ = Inspection marks used by Kokura Arsenal. Nakago Reverse 昭和十年四月日 = A day in April 1935. Nakago Obverse 肥前國光廣 = Hizen-kuni Mitsuhiro
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My jest about hybrids was referring to the combination swords that mix officer and enlisted sword components, such as below, and not the Type 32 conversions or experimentals. Has anyone seen this kind of saya on a type95 gunto before??
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This is an enigma if I ever saw one. A Type 100 with nakago mune inspection marks on a blade dated 1935! There is little doubt in my mind that this is the coveted officer's Type 95 Sword that everyone has been looking for. Not one of those hybrid affairs but a pure blood. kanji characters on tang of pattern 44 (On a serious note, I have run into this kind of omission before on mei. Most recently, on a Kanemasa.)
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Leather hanger for Type 95 Cavalry 騎兵用?
Kiipu replied to BANGBANGSAN's topic in Military Swords of Japan
Thank you for the additional information. I poorly worded my reply above so I will clarify here. I was thinking the leather hanger could have been made by the Chinese PLA for use with captured Japanese swords. -
Attention Mantetsu Owners: A Survey
Kiipu replied to Bruce Pennington's topic in Military Swords of Japan
Your sword in an early Mantetsu, serial number H14, that was made in the second year of production. Production is thought to have started in late 1937. It is fitted out as an army Type 98 Guntō. It looks to have the thick crossguard (tsuba) that BangBangSan has pointed out recently. Your handle is missing a few items but I will let Bruce handle this aspect of the sword. Thank you for sharing information about your sword and here is a link to taking care of it. Japanese SWORD CARE AND ETIQUETTE Links to additional photographs of Mantetsu H14. Read forums, need more, on Manchurian.... I have no idea and need help please in Translation Nakago Mune H14 Nakago Reverse SMR logo Nakago (tang) Obverse 昭和戊寅秋 = 1938 Autumn -
Read forums, need more, on Manchurian....
Kiipu replied to No Clue's topic in Military Swords of Japan
There is a rather long thread about Mantetsu swords and it can be found via the link below. Feel free to post any questions you may have in regards to your Mantetsu sword over there. Attention Mantetsu Owners: A Survey -
Leather hanger for Type 95 Cavalry 騎兵用?
Kiipu replied to BANGBANGSAN's topic in Military Swords of Japan
Could it be 中国人民解放军 (PLA)? The Chinese 65式骑兵刀 used a two hanger setup. It would be nice to compare this setup alongside a Type 65 Sword. Correct me if I am wrong, but this a shoulder harness rig. I know of one other two hanger Type 95 but in this case the second hanger is located on the drag. Has anyone come across this Stamp before?? Thanks for sharing the pictures Trystan. -
Koshirae Fitters Stamping Blades
Kiipu replied to Bruce Pennington's topic in Military Swords of Japan
You missed Katsumasa! Help with a stamping -
I located a second correction by Morita san to Slough's rendition of 新折衷和洋之刀制爰謹令我東京砲兵工廠小銃製造所鍛冶造焉. This concerns the last character 焉 which merely means the end of a sentence. Mr.Slough's Oshigata book.
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The Seki Tanrensho book and others related infos
Kiipu replied to Bruno's topic in Military Swords of Japan
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And another mystery marking for Bruce to ponder in his leisure hours! Additional Mark on Tang - (Mano) MASAYASU
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Here is a nice picture of a 岐 within a sakura stamp on the nakago mune. Kuwayama Kanetaka
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At a lost as to where to post this but here goes anyway. A Type 100 by Akimitsu that is pictured in Modern Japanese Swords: The Beginning of the Gendaito Era by Kapp & Monson. Nakago Reverse ☆ 鉄収子昭光作之 タ1246 Nakago Obverse 昭和十八年八月日
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I do not own one but I have seen one dated 1941-12-08, the Japaneses date for the attack on Pearl Harbor, in Modern Japanese Swords: The Beginning of the Gendaito Era by Kapp & Monson.
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The Japanese had 7 infantry divisions by May 1888 and this could account for the prefix numbers seen so far. But why do some blades have no numbers at all? One thing that bothers me is that these are officer's swords and hence presumably private property. This is borne out by that wide range of blade & tang shapes seen. It is an enigma that awaits an answer!
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Attention Mantetsu Owners: A Survey
Kiipu replied to Bruce Pennington's topic in Military Swords of Japan
Sooner or later is was bound to happen! A 37th series army contract Mantetsu with serial number 1. It was found in The Oshigata Book by F&G. Nakago Mune: サ 一. Nakago Obverse: 昭和癸未春 with possible M inspection mark. Nakago Reverse: 満鐵鍛造之 with 南 inspection mark. Mekugi-ana: 1. -
Bibliography of Modern Edged Weapons, 1868-1945
Kiipu replied to Kiipu's topic in Military Swords of Japan
I have updated the bibliography and it can be found at the link below. Bibliography of Japanese Modern Edged Weapons, 1868-1945 -
Below is a chronological listing of books about modern Japanese edged weapons from 1868 to 1945 published after 1945. (This thread is an update of a previous one called Bibliography of Modern Edged Weapons, 1868-1945.) I would like to give thanks to BangBangSan (Trystan) for providing the information about Chinese language books. Any comments, corrections, or additions welcomed, either publicly or privately. Inami Hakusui 伊波・白水. Nippon-tō: The Japanese Sword. Tokyo: Japan Sword Co., Ltd., 1948. Yumoto, John M. The Samurai Sword: A Handbook. Tuttle Publishing, 1958. Robinson, B. W. The Arts of the Japanese Sword. London: Faber and Faber, 1961. Ōno Tadashi 大野・正. Gendai tōkō meikan 現代刀工銘鑑 [Encyclopedia of Modern Swordsmiths]. Kōgei shuppan 光芸出版, 1971. Index https://www.japaneseswordindex.com/gtmindex.htm. Gregory, R. Japanese Military Swords. 1971. Gendaitō meisaku zukan 現代刀名作図鑑 [An Illustrated Book of Modern Sword Masterpieces]. Satō Kanzan kanshū 佐藤・寒山 監修 [Editorial supervison by Satō Kanzan]. Tōken shunjū shinbun-sha 刀剣春秋新聞社, 1977. Index https://www.japaneseswordindex.com/gmzindex.htm. Ōno Tadashi 大野・正. Gendai tōkō・kinkō・shokkata sōran 現代刀工・金工・職方総覧. [A General Survey of Modern Swordsmiths, Metalworkers, and Artisans]. Seiun shoin 青雲書院, 1977. Gregory, R., and R. Fuller. A Guide to Showa Swordsmiths: With 106 Oshigatas. 1978. Murakami Kōsuke 村上・孝介. Shōwa tōken meibutsu chō 昭和刀剣名物帳 [Catalogue of Noted Japanese Swords of the Shōwa Period] Tōkyō 東京: Yūzankaku shuppan 雄山閣出版, 1979. Fuller, Richard, and Ron Gregory. Swordsmiths of Japan, 1926–1945. 1983. Fuller, Richard, and Ron Gregory. The Oshigata Book. 1985. Fuller, Richard, and Ron Gregory. Military Swords of Japan, 1868–1945. London, GB: Arms and Armour, 1986. Johnson, Larry. Japanese Bayonets: The Definitive Work on Japanese Bayonets, 1870 to the Present. Broken Arrow, Okla.: Cedar Ridge Publications, 1988. Miyazaki Masa[o] 宮崎・昌幸. Imperial Japanese Daggers, 1883–1945. 1980s. [During the 1980s, Masa handed this booklet out to collectors to show them the dirks that he was interested in.] Imai Akio 今井・昭夫and Ikemori Masato 池森・正人. Nihon no gun'yō tōken 1868-1945nen 日本の軍用刀剣1868-1945年 [Japanese Military Used Swords, 1868–1945]. Army edition 陸軍編. 2 volumes. Zennihon gunsō kenkyū-kai 全日本軍装研究会, 1990. Shindō Susumu 進藤・進. Nihon guntō zuroku 日本軍刀図録 [Illustrated Book of Japanese Military Swords]. 2 volumes. Zennihon gunsō kenkyū-kai 全日本軍装研究会, 1991. Volume 1 第一巻: pages 1–161; Volume 2 第二巻: pages 162–319. Kishida, Tom トム・岸田. Yasukuni tōshō 靖国刀匠 [Yasukuni Swordsmiths]. Tōkyō 東京: 1994. Tsutsumi Akira 堤・章. Guntō kumiai shimatsu: Rikugun jumei tōshō no shūhen 軍刀組合始末: 陸軍受命刀匠の周辺. Aizu bunkazai chōsa kenkyūkai 会津文化財調査研究会, 1994. Dawson, Jim. Swords of Imperial Japan, 1868–1945. Newnan, Ga.: Stenger-Scott Publishing, 1996. Fuller, Richard, and Ron Gregory. Japanese Military and Civil Swords and Dirks. Charlottesville, Va.: Howell Press, 1997. Kishida, Tom トム・岸田. Yasukuni-tō: Dentō to bi no kyokuchi 靖国刀: 伝統と美の極致 [Yasukuni Swords: Tradition and Ideal Beauty]. Tōkyō 東京: Yūzankaku shuppan 雄山閣出版, 1998. Kurihara Hikosaburō Akihide zenkiroku: Nihontō o nido yomigaeraseta otoko 栗原彦三郎昭秀全記録: 日本刀を二度蘇らせた男 [A Complete Record of the Life of Kurihara Hikosaburō Akihide: The Man Who Saved Japanese Swords Twice]. Kurihara Hikosaburō denki kankō-kai 栗原彦三郎伝記刊行会, 2000. Wallinga, Herman A. Gendaito Made at the Minatogawa Shrine. 2000. [35 pages.] Slough, John Scott. An Oshigata Book of Modern Japanese Swordsmiths, 1868–1945. Rivanna River Company, 2001. Fimio, Frederick A. Swords and Swordsmiths of the Gendai Period, 1868–1989. Edited by Jane Nittolo. Barrie, Canada: The Japanese Sword Society of Canada, 2002. Kapp, Leon, Hiroko Kapp, and Yoshindo Yoshihara. Modern Japanese Swords and Swordsmiths: From 1868 to the Present. Tokyo: Kodansha International, 2002. Kishida, Tom. The Yasukuni Swords: Rare Weapons of Japan, 1933–1945. Translated by Kenji Mishina. Tokyo: Kodansha International, 2004. Dawson, Jim. Swords of Imperial Japan, 1868–1945. Cyclopedia ed. Newnan, Ga.: Stenger-Scott Publishing, 2007. LaBar, Raymond C. Bayonets of Japan: A Comprehensive Reference on Japanese Bayonets. Tunnel Hill, GA: RAYMAR, 2008. Banks, Ken. Japanese Pattern Dirks: The Banks Collection. Zor’s Military Antiques, 2011. Xu Yao Hua 许耀华. Ri Ben Dao Chuan Qi 日本刀传奇 [The Legend of Japanese Sword]. 航空工业出版社 Aviation Industry Press, 2012. Chinese language 中文. Fuller, Richard. Japanese Sword Surrender Tags, 103 Fully Translated: Plus Retention Certificates & Surrender Letters. Dreadnought Publishing Co., 2014. Kapp, Leon, Hiroko Kapp, and Leo Monson. Modern Japanese Swords: The Beginning of the Gendaito Era. CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform, 2015. Wang Hui 王・辉. Ri Ben Leng Re 日本冷刃 [Japanese Cold Steel]. Shan Dong Mei Shu Chu Ban She 山东美术出版社, 2016. Chinese language 中文. Bowen, Chris. The Kato Smiths of Meguro, Tokyo: Taisho to the Present – Excellence in Obscurity. 2017. Ohmura Tomoyuki 大村・紀征. Shinsetsu tatakau Nihontō 真説 戦う日本刀 [True Theory, Japanese Fighting Sword:]. BAB Japan, 2019. The End.