thank you both john and martin, im trying to do some research about mon , but its not so easy. especially for kiri mon i have heard there are up to a hundred different kiri mon in use in the feudal times all i know is 3-5-3 is toyotomi , 5-7-5 is the imperial line, an less pedals is lower ranked. may be one of you has a list with the different kiri mon.
thanks Johannes