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Bruce One more Mantetsu for you. 興亞一心 滿鐵作 昭和壬午秋（1942 Autumn） Owner says 仮名 is ヤ (Ya),but it looks like フ(Fu )or ク(Ku )to me. 八七八 878 Trystan

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I think there are more Gunto out of woodwork recent years got the registration paper not only apply as memento of the fallen soldiers,it could also apply as Historical objects maybe?

JP Here is more info 現在我が国にはおよそ２５０万振りの日本刀が登録されております。昭和２６年に銃砲刀剣類登録証が発行されるようになり既に６０年の歳月が経ちますが、未だに数多くの日本刀が新規に登録されております。今後も更に登録手続きの済んでいない数多くの日本刀が出てくると思われます。この機会に改めて登録証の有無を確認して頂ければと思います。無登録の刀が発見されるケースは様々です。引っ越しや実家の整理などで物置などから発見される場合や建物の改築に伴い屋根裏や床下から出てくるケース。また中には親族の遺品として譲り受けたが登録証の行方が分からない物、GHQより出された許可証をそのまま知らずに所持しているといったケースもあります。もし家の中から登録証の無いものが出てきた時はまずその所轄の警察署の生活安全課に行き発見届けの申請を行いましょう。時々実家の整理をしていたら刀が出てきたので一旦自分の住んでいる場所に持ち帰り改めて発見届けをしようとする人がいますが、必ず刀が発見された地域の所轄の警察署へ届け出るようにしましょう。また発見届けはその刀が出てきた家の世帯主が申請をしますが事情によってはご家族の方でも構いません。ただし第三者が発見届けの申請を代行する事は出来ませんのでくれぐれも注意致しましょう。発見届けの申請に必要なものは発見された刀と印鑑です。発見届けの申請用紙は各警察署の生活安全課に備えてありますので刀が発見された場所、日時やいきさつを説明すれば発見届けの書類を作成しくれます。発見届けの際は刀が錆びていても研いだりせずに発見された時のままの状態で手続きをしましょう。よく発見届けをしに警察署へ行くと逆にその場で罰せられたり刀を没収されたりするのではと心配する方がいますがそのような事は決してありません。また絶対外へ持ち出さずにずっと家の中にしまっておけば発見届けの申請が必要ないと思っている方もおりますが、家から持ち出さなくても無登録の刀剣類を所持していると銃刀法違反になりe ますので必ず発見届けを申請しましょう。 Roughly translate by using google translate:Currently, there are about 2.5 million Japanese swords registered in Japan. It has been 60 years since the registration certificate for firearms and swords was issued in 1951, but many Japanese swords are still registered. In the future, many Japanese swords that have not yet been registered will appear. I would like to check the registration certificate again at this opportunity. There are various cases where unregistered swords are discovered. Cases that come out of the attic or under the floor as a result of renovation of a building or when it is discovered from a storeroom, such as when moving or organizing a house. There are also cases where you have been handed over as a relic of a relative but you do not know the whereabouts of the registration card, or you still have the license issued by GHQ without knowing it. If something without a registration card comes out from your house, first go to the Life Safety Division of the police station in your area and apply for a discovery report. Sometimes the sword came out if I was organizing my home, so there are people who take it home once and try to report it again, but be sure to report it to the local police station where the sword was found Let's. In addition, the householder of the house where the sword came out applies for the discovery report, but depending on the circumstances, it may be a family member. However, please be aware that third parties are not able to apply for discovery notification. What you need to apply for a discovery report is a discovered sword and a seal. The application form for discovery notification is prepared in the Life Safety Division of each police station, so if you explain the place, date and time where the sword was discovered, it will create a discovery notification document. If you find a sword, do not sharpen it even if the sword is rusty. Some people are worried that if they go to the police station to report, they will be punished on the spot or the sword will be confiscated. Also, some people think that if you keep them in the house without taking them outside, you do not need to apply for discovery. Be sure to apply for a discovery report because it is a violation of the sword.

Bruce I found this article talking about the papered semi-forged(Nontraditional made) blade(Gunto),it's in Japanes . http://www.eiwado.co.jp/inquiry2.html 半鍛錬の軍刀でも親族の遺品等であった場合には特例の処置もあるようですので各都道府県教育委員会に問い合わせてみましょう。 Roughly transilated :If you have a semi-forged(Nontraditional made)sword it was once belong to family member who died in war, and then it will be treated specially ,please contact local Education Committee. So that might explain why some showa to got the registered. Some one says： 昭和26年至33年之間，以陣亡將士代表紀念品「遺骨代」為名目，申請登錄之各式軍刀不在少數。但昭和33年之後，便修法不再發給這類刀劍登錄許可了。 Between Showa 26-33 year1951-1958 , Many Gunto were registered as memento of the fallen soldiers (Subject "the remains of the bones". After Showa 33 year 1958, Goverment change the law, no longer issued the sword registeration license to these nontraditional made gunto . Trystan

Bruce Here is one rare arsenal mark for you.It's on a Navy Type 30 bayonet,some says it maybe made in Toyokawa Naval Arsenal (豊川海軍工廠) or Yokosuka Naval Arsenal (横須賀海軍工廠).

Agree!There are lot of members here contribute/share the knowledg&infomations with us for sure.But without Bruce start that two post and keep document all the info from all sources,we would not be able to gain that many knowledge about Mantetsu sword & Arsenal marks. Thanks for your hard work,Bruce!

The last two kanji could be 成功（success），that way make more sense.

Bruce I’m not sure if this page is waht you looking for http://ohmura-study.net/794.html#4

I got the photos from Nipponto website

Its says: 講和紀念（Peace Agreement Commemoration) 豫州北條住（Yoshu (Iyo Province)Hojo live ） 登龍博正作（Touryu HiroMasa Made) 昭和廿(二十)七年八月日（Showa 27 Year(1952) August）

Thomas Thank for your correction!

Iga 伊賀 is the name of city .

It says 伊賀大明神 Iga Daimyojin。大明神 is one of god's name of Japanese 神教 Shinto.

It says 天照山 Tanshozan 乙 Otsu on the tang. I guess it was made in 天照山鍛煉場Tanshozan Forgin workshop ？They made alot of Kai Gunto.

Check these Traditional VS Simplified Kanji like 算 VS 祘，you will not know it's the same Kanji if you never learn how to write them. Kanji on Photo 3 :直 真 具 其 县。you can see the difference .It's tricky sometimes when people did't write it standard.

Bruce found a 松 mark on Gunto Tang.It's in the Stamp chart. viii. ‘Matsu’ stamp found associated with tang batch or issue numbers. Significance unknown. Appears limited to blades (both signed and unsigned) found in 1944 pattern Army mounts. Rare. I saw this mark on some Type 30 bayonet.I think maybe it's from 松下電器 NATIONAL DENKI under TOKYO KOKURA ARSENAL's inspect.

Fender Squier Bullet MIJ?

Mark on Photo 5 looks like 岐 Gifu

Bruce He wrote 助 differently as well.sometimes smith use simple way to write thire signature .You can saw the similar writng on the tang from other smith .

Looks like 直助 Naosuke （野口健一）。昭和十九年十二月，1944，December.

Is it in Gunto mount?

More like 5 hours .Anyway,I think KOA ISSIN MANTETSU swords are great Gunto,many Japanese officers like them.Many collectors love KOA ISSIN swords as well,and I am one of them.

Bruce This is NOT my sword,and I don't think it has signature on the tang.Give another thought,力 means Power，you can see that kanji on some flag and sennienbari. Trystan

Not 九，it's 力